Boro v QPR match thread

erimus74 · September 03, 2023, 09:23:40 AM

Quote from: Redsteel (moderator) on September 03, 2023, 09:13:37 AMThe morning after, and feelings are still the same. You can accept a re-build and the vision going forward, however, we looked like a team out of sorts against, and lets be right, a poor QPR team. These are supposed to be the easy fixtures and yet we are rooted to the bottom of the table.

There are a few things that need to change, because it just isn't acceptable the way we are. For starters the defence needs to be sorted. Either go three at the back with Dicksteel and Engel wingbacks or go a flat 4 with dicksteel in front of the back four. Midfield, should be O'Brian Hackney/Barlaser if you go 5 at the back or in a four Mcgree on the left and Forrs/Rogers/Jones on the right. Coburn/ELL up top with Greenwood just in behind.

If we keep doing what we are, then it will only get worse as I see it. I can't see Carrick changing the system, I will file him with the rest, stubborn to the point of being sacked.

I understand the build and push for promotion in 3-4yrs time hoping the prospects by then are the real deal. However, the fans aren't daft and have been sold the dream of a genuine push for the top 2, which the club should have put right during the window. People will be cool if you tell them the long term plan and the short term pain if we started off badly. Yesterday was nothing short of shambolic and the punters will only tolerate it for so long.

Hats off to those who pour their hard earned into the club, you all deserve better value than you are getting.

Good post Red, it is worrying & we are going down the same route as Woodgates teams, far to weak all over the field

Ural Quntz (Moderator) · September 03, 2023, 09:29:20 AM

Quote from: Redsteel (moderator) on September 03, 2023, 09:13:37 AMThe morning after, and feelings are still the same. You can accept a re-build and the vision going forward, however, we looked like a team out of sorts against, and lets be right, a poor QPR team. These are supposed to be the easy fixtures and yet we are rooted to the bottom of the table.

There are a few things that need to change, because it just isn't acceptable the way we are. For starters the defence needs to be sorted. Either go three at the back with Dicksteel and Engel wingbacks or go a flat 4 with dicksteel in front of the back four. Midfield, should be O'Brian Hackney/Barlaser if you go 5 at the back or in a four Mcgree on the left and Forrs/Rogers/Jones on the right. Coburn/ELL up top with Greenwood just in behind.

If we keep doing what we are, then it will only get worse as I see it. I can't see Carrick changing the system, I will file him with the rest, stubborn to the point of being sacked.

I understand the build and push for promotion in 3-4yrs time hoping the prospects by then are the real deal. However, the fans aren't daft and have been sold the dream of a genuine push for the top 2, which the club should have put right during the window. People will be cool if you tell them the long term plan and the short term pain if we started off badly. Yesterday was nothing short of shambolic and the punters will only tolerate it for so long.

Hats off to those who pour their hard earned into the club, you all deserve better value than you are getting.

Good analysis

Thank fuck for the International break - and no home games for 3 weeks!

Might try for a Bradford ticket though

What dafcuns we are - just keep coming back

BoroRedKen · September 03, 2023, 10:05:00 AM

Made 9 good saves from our 16 shots

That makes it sound like a worldly performance from Begovic. You would struggle to repeat the 9 on target let alone the 16 shots.

Im struggling to remember 5!

BoroRedKen · September 03, 2023, 10:06:00 AM

You cant count the 1 that ended up in Darlo it was that wide!

BoroRedKen · September 03, 2023, 10:07:39 AM

Will agree with their 1st goal. It was a beauty. Perfect curl on it you could see it bend in the air.

BoroRedKen · September 03, 2023, 10:10:08 AM

And i would rather play Carrick as a #9 than that baby giraffe, must think he is a Brazilian with his 1st touches, Rogers.

Redsteel (Moderator) · September 03, 2023, 10:10:26 AM

Quote from: Nekder (Kenny) on September 03, 2023, 10:05:00 AM Made 9 good saves from our 16 shots

That makes it sound like a worldly performance from Begovic. You would struggle to repeat the 9 on target let alone the 16 shots.

Im struggling to remember 5!

All the clear cut chances were hit straight at him. ELL needs to keep calm, he is trying too hard in my opinion and panic strikes. Look at Archer yesterday for Sheff utd, his first goal so calm and clinical, it really brought home yesterday what we are missing. Archer in our team yesterday, we win 4-2.

BoroRedKen · September 03, 2023, 10:16:00 AM

I was impressed by their manager Ainsworth. Up, down, shouting, whistling, kicking most of the balls.

They might not be a good side but you could see the players listen to him.

erimus74 · September 03, 2023, 10:17:32 AM

Quote from: Nekder (Kenny) on September 03, 2023, 10:07:39 AMWill agree with their 1st goal. It was a beauty. Perfect curl on it you could see it bend in the air.

Cracking strike, Deing was wrong footed, no blame attached to him at all, or the 2nd goal either

teamboro · September 03, 2023, 11:28:10 AM

We definitely need a strong defence we've been lacking a strong defence since Kranka days

Redsteel (Moderator) · September 03, 2023, 02:47:22 PM

Quote from: teamboro on September 03, 2023, 11:28:10 AMWe definitely need a strong defence we've been lacking a strong defence since Kranka days

I think a fit Clark would always start, and Dicksteel at RB for his pace. One thing is for certain, Silvera shouldn't be anywhere near that first team sheet, subs bench at best. Will be interesting to see if Carrick changes tact and works on something to make us stronger at the back and middle of the park.

tunstall · September 03, 2023, 03:07:13 PM

What's happened to Paddy?

Confidence? Played out of position?

erimus74 · September 03, 2023, 03:09:56 PM

Quote from: Redsteel (moderator) on September 03, 2023, 02:47:22 PM
Quote from: teamboro on September 03, 2023, 11:28:10 AMWe definitely need a strong defence we've been lacking a strong defence since Kranka days

I think a fit Clark would always start, and Dicksteel at RB for his pace. One thing is for certain, Silvera shouldn't be anywhere near that first team sheet, subs bench at best. Will be interesting to see if Carrick changes tact and works on something to make us stronger at the back and middle of the park.

Clarke played a blinder on his debut, then struggled the next few games & seems to have been out forever, with noone having any idea what his injury is, or, how long before he's at least back training

Carrick has to change his ideas of playing the game, its just not working, last season teams feared us before kickoff, we had goals all over the pitch, granted no blame is at Carricks door hes dealt the hands he's got with recruitment but just try & play to our strengths not persisting with a rigid system thats not working for us

Johnny Thunder · September 03, 2023, 03:11:54 PM

Quote from: tunstall on September 03, 2023, 03:07:13 PMWhat's happened to Paddy?

Confidence? Played out of position?

Last year of his contract. Doesn't give a fuck.

Redsteel (Moderator) · September 03, 2023, 03:34:25 PM

Quote from: Johnny Thunder on September 03, 2023, 03:11:54 PM
Quote from: tunstall on September 03, 2023, 03:07:13 PMWhat's happened to Paddy?

Confidence? Played out of position?

Last year of his contract. Doesn't give a fuck.

And he's dogshat

Bud Wiser · September 03, 2023, 09:24:00 PM

Quote from: teamboro on September 03, 2023, 11:28:10 AMWe definitely need a strong defence we've been lacking a strong defence since Kranka days

Stronger under Pulis. We had the joint best goals against record in the Division during the 18/19 season.

Bud Wiser · September 03, 2023, 09:40:59 PM

Quote from: tunstall on September 03, 2023, 03:07:13 PMWhat's happened to Paddy?

Confidence? Played out of position?

Probably both seeing as he was the clubs best player two years running not so long back whilst playing in a back three. Isiah Jones took that that accolade for the following 21/22 season playing at right-wing back.
But our clueless clown of a manager prefers to play one at right-back and the other as a winger?!!