Boro v Sheff Weds match thread

[In With the Lurpak]

Right after a good nights kip & going over last night's match im still under the same opinion, I was watching the worst two teams in the championship last night, yes the table shows we are the worst two but performances wise 100%

Sheff Wed are the poorest team I've seen, along with us mind, next we have Southampton who are conceding goals for fun & another game, our 8th, against average teams

Then I go back to whose at fault, where does the blame lie, not just this seadon, but countless seasons of management merrygorounds, some are saying Gibson, others says Scott, others will blame Carrick

Whats the alternative, if we could, would replacing Gibson bring us what we want, 100% not, nothings guarenteed, in fact there have been more bad 'new' owners than good, maybe Gibson needs some voice alongside him to, sort, of disagree with him from time to time

Scott, now there's a thing, I questioned his appointment with the fanfare when he arrived only to be told, he'll get us the players we need, top of his game, then, IIRC, Ramsey & Archer were recommend by Banks, not Scott
With the club wanting to go down the road of the less loans the better for team building, which I totally get, while also getting away from 'project players', yet Hopee was a project player who has since been loaned out & is unlikely to play again for us, how are Engle, Silvera, Rogers, regardless of position, better than Hoppee

Carrick, who you say is blameless in bringing those players in can not be blameless at all in watching some of worst, lacklustre performances I have seen for many a season, even some of Strachans signings would be in ahead of those I've mentioned

Where do we go from hete, who do we blame, I havent the foggiest, I know Southampton who come here on saturday concede for fun, will we score, probably, would you put money on us score, not really

This will be our 8th game & IMHO, we must have had the easiest start of fixtures & to be where we are is not down to bad luck but collective poor management


UTMB

Read this the other night , nowt changes much at the top this poster could be talking about this week but it was posted on February 28, 2020 

What are other people's views on how whether there is sufficient scrutiny on the Club internally and externally such as through the Evening Gazette and BBC Tees?. My post in the "Should Jonathan Woodgate be sacked?" thread generated discussion so maybe it's worthy of its own thread. I'll get the ball rolling below by adding a few more points.

Externally, I think it's pretty much a dictatorship with the Club's treatment of the Evening Gazette and BBC Tees over the years. We're teetering on the brink of relegation to League One after the appointment of Woodgate backfired as expected and is still in a job, yet there seems to have been next to no meaningful scrutiny. Based upon the clear imbalance between the squad at Woodgate's disposal vs our league position, we should be nowhere near the relegation zone. We're only here through sheer incompetence to 1.) appoint a useless manager and head of recruitment, and 2.) to continue to employ that useless manager (head of recruitment did the right thing and resigned - credit to Bevington for that). I completely don't blame the Evening Gazette sports team for their lack of scrutiny as they've got their hands tied behind their backs. They got their hands scolded after relegation from the Premier League when they became too critical of the team and undoubtedly have budget pressures so have to fall in line with the club as they simply can't afford to fall out with the Club. MFC had the power to bully the Evening Gazette into submission, but it shouldn't do so just because it has the power to. It's dirty tactics which reduces my opinion of Steve Gibson dramatically. Similarly, MFC having the BBC Tees Neil Maddison on the payroll is a massive conflict of interest, so he's never going to be impartial. Notably, Bernie Slaven was sacked from that role because he was too outspoken against MFC's failures. It's so obviously tainted.

Internally, the sound music from Pulis and Woodgate seems to be one of complacency as they have reassured us countless times that there are good policies now in place behind the scenes and that Steve Gibson knows what he is doing. We've heard lots of propaganda for years about "smashing the league", "the golden thread", how we've totally rejuvenated the recruitment policies etc. However, nothing has improved, and instead things have slowly and gradually got worse ever since Gibson regained full power during that messy January 2017 window. From the outside looking in, it seems like Gibson surrounds himself with "yes men" who aren't fit for their jobs, as emphasised by the appointments of Bevington and Woodgate. Given that culture, I can't imagine someone internal who scrutinised Gibson and co's decisions being particularly welcomed behind the scenes. I'm imagining they'd be sacked and thrown under the bus just how Karanka and Orta were after relegation from the Premier League. He took it to an unprofessional level with them personal attacks. It's from the political handbook of dirty tricks. I think Gibson should be absolutely ashamed of himself for doing that to a manager who got us promoted. Common decency and appreciation of his achievements with us should have prevailed. Again, just because you have the power to do something, it doesn't mean you should do it.

In my opinion, the lack of scrutiny internally and externally is contributing to the malaise that has maligned the club for the vast majority of the past decade. It makes me even less confident about our ability to turn things around. In the absence of genuine scrutiny from the local media, fans dismay can only be contained for so long. Before Gibson knows it he's going to come under some well deserved criticism when PR can't paper over the cracks any longer such as if we end up in League One. Maybe only then will he stop burying his head into the sand at any sort of scrutiny.     

[Ural Quntz (Moderator)]

Who is this expert?

His style seems familiar

[AtomicDog]

Who is this c**t?

We only need Erimus's expert opinion on here, not this amateurs . . . Bet he isn't even from the Boro

Fixed that for you Colonel
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[Mike Peeler]

And to top it all off a woman commentator on Sky🤬

Have you seen who it was commentating?


Pien Meulensteen


I would be sniffing her knickers if I was a bit younger.   



https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/24061008/pien-meulensteen-sky-sports-commentator-man-utd/

[Johnny Thunder]

[New Division]

I might have been a bit hasty with that comment. I'll give the lass another chance 😍

[Johnny Thunder]