Sunderland v Boro match thread

[erimus74]

2 form teams going head to head this Saturday morning
 
Boro are in a much better place after a run of 5 games unbeaten, winning the last 4 & jumping from 24 to 16th, including our 1st league cleansheet of the season, moggas team who are in 4th place in the championship, mouth watering north east derby  at the SOL

We have improved so much since that 1st half shocker away to Sheff Weds, with Boro rooted at the foot of the Championship we now look at this fixture with a possibility of getting something from, as opposed to just going there with hope of not getting battered
Though for me, my biggest concern with them is Mogga, his teams usually come out on top of these games against us

Mogga will have them fired up from kickoff, in our faces, we need to play our normal game, keep possession, knock the ball around, slow the tempo right down, quieten the crowd, don't let them get into their stride, remove their threats on the wings & we're a good way to winning the game, easier said that done I know
If we can keep it tight we have pace to come on with Latte late

Jones is so important to us as is Greenwood who is starting to impose himself, he had a cracking game against Cardiff & playing against his home team he can thrive in the atmosphere

Howson, or Balasar, maybe too soon for Howson with been ill midweek, Balasar to keep him place for me
Engle against their speedy wingbacks, he had a great game Tuesday night, but away from home, big test for him could se Bagura come in there, but Carrick may see Engle as the right player after midweek, hopefully he has the confidence now knowing he can peform at this level

For me the team that started midweek should be the team that starts on Saturday

We've plated Sunderland in the PL, 1st division, 2nd division, FAC, league cup, Anglo Scottish Cup & Texaco cup

1st away fixture on Wearside  - 3rd December 1887 Sunderland 4 Boro 2
Won  - 14
Drew - 21
Lost - 38
Goals for - 75
Goals against - 129


No away hat tricks v Sunderland

Away debuts v Sunderland

2/9/1911 - John Stirling & Edward Eyre away lost 1-0
24/4/1948 - Chris Johnston away lost 3-0
28/11/1953 - Joseph Berbeck away won 2-0
21/8/2016 - Brad Guzan away won 2-1 - Our 73rd 1st team keeper


Away penalties v Sunderland

01/04/1907 Alf Common  lost 2-4 - Our 9th penalty
02/04/1910 RT Young drew 2-2 - Our 15th penalty
22/10/1938 Benjamin Yortson won 2-1 - Our 38th penalty
27/2/1960 Bill Harris drew 2-2 - Our 57th penalty
11/11/1961 Arthur Kaye lost 1-2 - Our 59th penalty
24/2/2018  Grant Leadbitter drew 3-3 - Our 129th  penalty


A number of players who played for both team

Brian Clough - For Boro - 1955 - 61, 213 games scored 197 goals, for Sunderland - 1961 - 64, 61 games, scored 54 goals.
Stan Anderson - Captained all 3 north east teams, Boro, Newcastle & Sunderland, Boro were almost doomed when he took over but with his signings he made 66-67 a season to remember, for all the right reasons.
Alf Common - In February 1905, he broke the transfer record again by moving to Middlesbrough for £1,000, becoming the World's first £1000 Footballer. The Boro had purchased Common in an attempt to avoid relegation to the Second Division. His first game for Middlesbrough was on 25 February 1905, away to his former club Sheffield United. Boro won 1–0, with Common scoring from a penalty after 50 minutes, it was their first away win for nearly two years. Consequently, the team, who had so far been battling against relegation that season, survived the drop. He played 168 league games for Boro and scored 58 goals.
David Hodgson - Played for the Boro between 1978 -1982 - 125 games, scoring 16 goals then returning to the Boro in 1987 on loan for 2 games, it should have been more but Hodgy was sent off in his 2nd game at AP & never played again. In between he played for Sunderland between 1984 - 86 - 40 games & scored 5 goals.
Mark Proctor - Played for the Boro between 1978 -1981 - 109 games, scoring 12 goals then returning to the Boro in 1989 -1993 - 120 games, 6 goals. In between he played for Sunderland between 1983 - 87 - 117 games & scored 20 goals.
Stan Cummins - He played for Boro between 1975 -79 - 44 games, 9 goals. In January 1978 Boro beat Newcastle 4–2 at St. James Park & Cummins scored Boro's fourth goal prompting match commentator Kenneth Wolstenholme to say another of his famous one liners. Immediately after the goal Wolstenholme said "That gives him (Cummins) ten out of ten & one for neatness".In December '78 Boro beat Chelsea 7-2 at Ayresome Park & Cummins had four assists. He joined Sunderland in November 1979 at the age of 20, for £300,000, the Club's most expensive signing in their 100-year history. Between 1979 - 1983, he played 133 games, 29 goals, & resigned for Sunderland 1984-85 season, 17 games 0 goals. 
Gary Rowell - Played 257 games for Sunderland scoring 88 goals between 1974 - 84. Played 27 games for the Boro season 1985-86 scoring 10 goals.
Alan Foggan - Played 115 games for the Boro between 1972 -1976 - scoring 45 goals, he was Stan Anderson's penultimate signing, made 8 appearances for Sunderland with no goals in season 1976-77 
Grant Leadbitter - Played 111 games for Sunderland scoring 11 goals between 2003 - 09. Signing for the Boro in 2012 played 164 games scoring 24 goals. 
Paddy McNair - Tony Pulis signed Paddy at the start of the 2018 season for £5m, playing approx 145 games, scoring 13 goals
Joe Bolton – 1972-81 played 272 games for Sunderland scoring 11 goals, signed for the Boro 1981-83 played 59 games & scoring one goal, which was against Notts County at AP, Boro won 3-0
Lee Cattermole – Played 69 games for the Boro scoring 3 goals, signed for Sunderland in 2009 played 140 games, scoring 2 goals
Mick Buckley – Played 121 games for Sunderland scoring 7 goals between 1978 -83, Willie Maddren signed him for the Boro 1984-85 season, playing 27 games with no goals.
Julia Arca – Played 167 games for Sunderland scoring 23 goals between 2000 – 06. Played 180 games for the Boro scoring 9 goals between 2006 – 13.
Dean Whitehead - Played 185 games for Sunderland scoring 13 goals between 2004 – 09. Played 55 games for the Boro scoring 1 goal between 2013 – 15. He scored his only Boro goal away to Derby in a 2-1 defeat.
Shay Given - He became only the sixth player to have represented Boro, Newcastle & Sunderland, after Joseph Blackett, William Agnew, Tommy Urwin, Stan Anderson & Alan Foggon and the first to do so since 1976, when Foggon made his debut for Sunderland.
Zenden – Signed for the Boro onloan in season 2003-04 & played 31 goals scoring 4 goals, including a memorable cup final winning penalty, signed the following season playing 36 games & scoring 5 goals, Lazio being one of em, left for Liverpool the following season, 05-06 & in season 2009-2011 his career took a turn for the worse when he signed for Sunderland, playing 47 games & scoring a lucky 4 goals
Peter Davenport – 1988–89 signed for the Boro manager Bruce Rioch but managed just four goals from 24 games in as Boro slipped back into the Football League Second Division just one season after promotion. 1989–90 was even tougher as Boro narrowly avoided a second successive relegation and Davenport managed a mere three goals from 35 league games, and by the end of the season Rioch had gone and Boro were now managed by Colin Todd.

In July 1990, he signed for their local rivals Sunderland who had just been promoted to the First Division
John Kay - Brought in on loan from Wimbledon by WM season 1984-85 played 8 games at FB, then went to Sunderland between 87 - 96 playing 199 games without scoring
Allan Johnston – Played 87 games for Sunderland 1997 – 2000 scoring 17 goals, signed for the Boro for £600k in 2001 – 2004, played 17 games & scoring one goal away top West Ham.
Justin Hoyte - Played 27 games for Sunderland scoring 1 goal between season 2005-06, while on loan from Arsenal, Southgate signed JH for £3m, 2008 -14, he played 142 games for the Boro scoring 2 goals , one was a cracker Friday night sky live match against Sheff Weds that put us top of the championship.
Adam Johnson –1999 – 2010 played 96 games for the Boro, scoring 13 goals, he played for Sunderland 2012 - 2-16, playing 122 games, scoring 19 goals.
Danny Graham - Played 15 games for the Boro between 2004 - 2007, after a number of clubs he unfortunately between 2013-16 he found himself at Sunderland, playing 37 games, scoring the one goals, scoring one goal, Sunderland loaned him to Boro in 2014, playing 18 games, scoring 6 goals
Matt Kilgallon – 2010 – 13 played 23 games for Sunderland no goals, loaned to the Boro 2010 played 2 games no goals.

C'mon Boro

[teamboro]

Agree Mogga teams always seem to come out on top against us 0-2 Bluderland hope I'm wrong

Great thread Erimus as usual

[Mike Peeler]

Excellent write up Erimus on the Boro v Sunderland game and nice to see the little photo of young Bradley.

I can see this one going maybe end to end a fair bit, especially if a first goal goes in for either side.

My prediction is the first goal might not be the winning goal but the team that scores it will win the game for me. 3-2 scoreline just not sure who to, apart from hoping it is a Boro win.

It should be a cracker.

[Sir Digby]

Early start tomorrow. Coach managed to avoid the police escort last season, but not tomorrow 😞. Will be using my card for a few before so they don't raid my pockets again at the turnstiles.

[LIDDLE_TOWERS999]

MACKEM SCUM 1 BORO LIONS 🦁 2

COBURN
GREENWOOD

💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪

[erimus74]

The loss of O'Brien till in to the new year is a massive blow, but good news on other playets in VDB, Dijksteel, Bangura all back in contention, that has lifted the mood in the club, Howson, for me bench at best

But one for me, as mentioned in theopening MDT is Greenwood, he could be a big player for us if he can build on his Cardiff game, though Michael Carrick might revert back to Crooks for this one, Jones does seem to benefit more with Crooks feeding him, helping him

Lenihan another absentee due to illness shouldnt walk back in the team, McNair had a really good, steady game & IMHO, when hes been left out & came in hes done well

Smith done well also

One thing I've noticed is the lack of posys on Dieng, this time last season thete were threads eveyday on Steffen, not just on here with fans divided between him, he didnt really win over all the fans, on the otherhand Dieng has been excellent, probably our best summer recruitment & worthy of been our No1 & for me a better all round keeper than Steffen, who I thought was decent enough

[Johnny Thunder]

2-2

[LIDDLE_TOWERS999]

IF WE CAN KEEP CLARKE AND BELLINGHAM QUIET WE CAN WIN THIS... PRITCHARD OUT AGAIN WHO HAS BEEN BOSSING THEIR MIDFIELD 👍 THAT BA LOOKS A DANGER TOO 🙄

[Mike Peeler]

I will be punting 3-2 on Boro but could see them also winning by a similar scoreline - the first goal as I touched on yesterday is fairly critical, I would say in this one.

I will wait for the sides before deciding on who my poke is going on.

[AtomicDog]

Still
0-6
🐾

[John Trebor]

Dreading it. 0-3.
Bastards.

[LIDDLE_TOWERS999]

NOT TOO HAPPY WITH THAT TEAM LIKE... FRY CAPTAIN 🤔🙄🙄🙄

[erimus74]

Jones enjoys it with Crooks alongside him

[erimus74]

Have we ever won an away game against any of Moggas teams?

[LIDDLE_TOWERS999]

Have we ever won an away game against any of Moggas teams?

DON'T THINK SO... ALWAYS LOST AT WEST BROM AND IPSWICH AND BLACKBURN 🤔🤔🤔

MCGREE INJURED 😡😡😡

[erimus74]

Ive just remembered we beat West brom on penalties in the FAC

[Keanu_Reeves]

Engel up against Patrick Roberts ffs 😢

[Mike Peeler]

A big miss McGree but its still CMON BORO from me.


Single  @100/1

Sam Greenwood, Middlesbrough 3-2
First Goal Scorer, Correct Score / Sunderland v Middlesbrough

Single  @13/2

Hayden Hackney
Anytime Goalscorer / Sunderland v Middlesbrough

Single  @6/1

Emmanuel Latte Lath
Last Goal Scorer / Sunderland v Middlesbrough

Single  @18/1

Dael Fry
Anytime Goalscorer / Sunderland v Middlesbrough

Single  @23/10

Josh Coburn
Anytime Goalscorer / Sunderland v Middlesbrough

Could the Mackem born Greenwood be my money spinner lets hope so.



#UTFB

FOLLOW FOLLOW FOLLOW......





WE'RE MIDDLESBROUGH!!! :leo1:




GET INTO THEM AND FUCK EM UP!!! :carrick2:



WE HATE SUNLAN, WE HATE SUNLAN...




 

[erimus74]

We're getting our fair share of injuries, now missing McGree, massive player for us & a big, big miss

My MOTM v Cardiff, hes so important to us

[erimus74]

What happened to McGree, ubaware of him missing until now, gutted

[tunstall]

Injured apparently

[erimus74]

Injured apparently

Yea, there was nothing in the build up

[LIDDLE_TOWERS999]

SMITH IN FOR RVB.. INJURED IN THE WARM UP.. MCGREE GOT  FOOT INJURY 🙄

[erimus74]

C'mon Boro! ❤️

[tunstall]

Crooks needs to engage his brain here