West Brom v Boro match thread

[erimus74]

Boro travel to the west midlands in search of our 1st away goal & points of the season, we're in need of a win to drag ourselves away from the wrong end of the table, tall order with our reluctance to keep a clean sheet be more clinical in front of goal than we were away to Coventry & at home to Huddersfield

I expect Michael Carrick will stick with the team that started at home to Huddersfield, maybe if Smith was to show any signs of improvement he'd be in ahead of Van der Berg

Bit of stats between both teams in these fixtures over the years

A big goalscoring CF when been the 1st time a Boro player has made 2 debuts against the same team, an end of a legend,  2 of our record signings have made their debuts & one of the best ever long range wonder goals

2nd January 1915 -  Boro Scottish CF Andrew Nesbit Wilson made his debut in a 1-0 away loss at WBA, he played a full season before he enlisted to join the army for the 1st world, early 1918 he was injured in Arras when shell fragment shattered his left hand & was invalided home & allowed to play in Scotland, during his time there he continued to score goals & as the Boro still held his registration he was recalled back to Teesside when on the 29th August 1921 he made his "second" Boro debut at WBA in a 0-0 draw

3rd September 1977 record signing Billy Ashcroft made his non scoring debut in a 2-1 defeat, also making his scoring debut that day was Cyril Regis
3rd September 1977 One of the best defenders ever to pull on a Boro shirt & a legend of Charltons Champions, Willie Maddren, played his final Boro 1st team game
3rd September 1977 Another one from Charltons Champions team, Peter Brine who played his final away game at the hawthorns, coming off injured early in the 2nd half, he played one more game the following week, home game & sadly had to retire through persistent knee injury

16th March 1974 West Brom 0 Boro 4

29th December 2019 West Brom 0 Boro 2 - Ashley Fletcher scored a wonder goal, with TV pundit Ian Holloway described Ashley Fletcher's wonderstrike at West Brom as, "a goal he could watch all day & all night'!

Boro who have won 2 & drew one of our last 4 visits to Saturdays opponent, fingers crossed this run continues

The 1st fixture between these two team in the west midlands was on the 14th December 1901 with Boro losing 2-0
WBA v Boro fixture will be 51st fixture at the Hawthorns between the 2 teams, with the following record:

Won - 12
Drew - 12
Lost  - 26
Goals scored - 48
Goals against - 77

A number of players who played for both team

David Mills: Played for the Boro in two separate spells, 1st spell between 1968-1979, playing 296 games & scoring 76 goals, he scored the only goal at Luton in 1974 to clinch the Boro the 2nd Championship, he asked for a transfer in 76 & the club put a £200k transfer fee on him, there were no takers, he eventually moved to WBA in 79, Ron Atkinson paying an English transfer fee of £500k & between 1979 -82 he played 59 games scoring 6 goals for West Brom. The late, great Willie Maddren re-signed DM for the Boro for season 1984-85 where he played 32 games, scoring 14 goals.

Bryan Robson: Robbo played 198 games for West Brom scoring 40 goals, he then signed for Man United where he stayed until 1994 when the chance to become player manager at the Boro was too good an opportunity for him & signed for the Boro between 1995 -2001, playing 28 games & scoring one goal, a thunder bolt at the east end seats of AP against Port Vale. BR brought something to the club that, as a long serving fan, I thought I would never see following my club, playing in a major cup final at Wembley, whatever the results he gave us all dreams 

Tony Mowbray: Mogga played 348 games between1982-1991 for Boro scoring 25 goals, September 1982 Willie Maddren gave Mowbray his debut away to Newcastle, his role was to man mark Kevin Keegan, it worked, KK didn't score & we come away with a 1-1 draw. Mowbary left the Boro for Celtic & once his playing career was over managed a few team, WBA being one of them, he returned to the Boro as manager between 2010 -2013

James Morrison: Played 66 games for the Boro between 2004-07 scoring 3 goals, his claim to fame, on the 30 September 2004 in a UEFA Cup tie, away at Banik Ostrava & making his EUFA cup debut, he scored the Boro's 1st ever away goal in our UEFA cup campaign. Morrison started for Middlesbrough in the 2006 UEFA Cup Final against Sevilla. In 2007 he left the Boro for WBA for £1.5M & to date played 254 games, scoring 28 goals, he got sent off in an FA Cup quarter-final replay against Manchester United for a kick out at Cristiano Ronaldo.

Jonathan Greening: Played 99 games for the Boro, between 2001-2004 scoring 4 goals, he signed for the Boro along with a united teammate of his, Mark Wilson, for a combined fee of £3M, he was voted Club player of the Year for 2002–03 and also selected for the full England squad (though he didn't play). JG signed for WBA & between 2004-2010 played 196 games, scoring 7 goals.

Chris Brunt: at the Boro between 2002-2004  never got any game time, after a few seasons at Sheff Weds he was transferred to WBA in 2007, where he is still playing, CB has played 286 games, scoring 39 goals.

Alan Miller, our 42nd different goalkeeper played 62 times for the Boro between 1994 & 1997, Alan had 3 separate spells at WBA, a loan spell before joining the Boro & while at the Boro he went to WBA on loan before signing permanently in 1997, playing a total of 108 games

Jordan Hugill played 37 games for us on loan in 2018-19, 20 gams for West Brom in 2021-22 season

Over the years

3 hat tricks v WBA all home

Away penalties v WBA

5th January 1935 George Camsell away lost 5-3
19th September Lindy Delapenha away won 3-2
16th May 1974 John Hickton away won 4-0


Away debuts v WBA

17/01/1903 - Harry Douglas  away lost 1-0
16/01/1904 - James Suddick drew 2-2
02/11/1912 - George Malcolm away lost 5-1
02/01/1915 - Andrew Nesbit Wilson & Albert Davies away lost 1-0
05/01/1921 - William Birrell away won 1-0
29/08/1921 - Andrew Nesbit Wilson away drew 0-0 - Returned after the 1st world war - both 'debuts' away to WBA - We still held his registration
28/04/1923 - William Butler away lost 1-0
13/04/1929 - John Gardner away lost 1-0
01/05/1937 - Harold Shepherdson away lost 3-1
01/04/1950 - Arthur Fitzsimmons away lost 3-0
03/09/1977 - Billy Ashcroft away lost 2-1
01/04/1995 - Jan Fjortoft & Viv Anderson away won 3-1 - Viv Anderson been the oldest Boro debutant at 38 years & 6 days

https://youtu.be/45y3cIoHs9M?si=zAieiYqbFtO_0cQt

[LIDDLE_TOWERS999]

BAGGIES 3 BORO 1  😞😞😞

LIKE I SAID THERE'S SOMETHING NOT RIGHT AT THE CLUB AND I DON'T FEEL CARRICK IS A TOO HAPPY CHAPPY 👎

[John Trebor]

Good stuff Erimus.
One of my favourite Boro/WBA memories is when Tony McAndrew's leg fell off but he bandaged it up then came back on to help see out a 1-0 victory.
FA Cup 4th round, 1981.

[erimus74]

Good stuff Erimus.
One of my favourite Boro/WBA memories is when Tony McAndrew's leg fell off but he bandaged it up then came back on to help see out a 1-0 victory.
FA Cup 4th round, 1981.

Yep remember that well

1st half WBA keeper Godden dived over a daisy cutter from Ian Bailey at the holgate end, the bal somehow went under the keepers body
2nd hald with us holding on for a 1-0 win & West Brom coming more in to the game Tony Godden sort of paid a bit back when saving David Armstrong penalty, fortunatly we held on & progressed to the next round

Dave Hodgson in the holgate end too, serving a one game suspension

[tunstall]

Can't see anything else but a home win I'm afraid lads

WBA 2 Boro 0

[Johnny Thunder]

1-1

[TerryCochranesSocks]

1-2 Boro
Lath gets both

[erimus74]

1-1

Be happy with that John, 2 unbeaten games on the bounce, small steps, we have to start somewhere

[erimus74]

1-2 Boro
Lath gets both

Even better Terry 👍🤞

[LIDDLE_TOWERS999]

1-2 Boro
Lath gets both

YER A BETTER SPELLER TEL 😁😁😁

THAN YOU ARE A FOOTBALL PREDICTOR      

[TerryCochranesSocks]

Let's see.

[tunstall]

Hope you're right Tezza lad

[LIDDLE_TOWERS999]

Hope you're right Tezza lad

NEVER HEARD OF THE CUNT 

[AtomicDog]

2-1

[Redsteel (Moderator)]

3-1 Home win unfortunately.

[erimus74]

Im going for our 1st clean sheet & a 2-0 win 🤞

[tunstall]

 

[Nosmo-King]

1-0 - can't see us scoring and have trouble keeping a clean sheet.

[RiversideRifle]

2-3 latte lath with all 5 👍👍👍👍👍

[erimus74]

2-3 latte lath with all 5 👍👍👍👍👍

😳😁

[TMG501]

 

[TommyDickfingers]

Another tight game against a fellow promotion contender, could be tight

Dafcun Baggies 0 mighty MFC 4

[teamboro]

0-1 to the mighty Reds need to get back to winning ways 

[Francks left peg]

@erimus74 , yet again, another amazing post. Your knowledge and memorabilia connected to MFC astounds me. For the record, Boro to lose 1-0

[erimus74]

@erimus74 , yet again, another amazing post. Your knowledge and memorabilia connected to MFC astounds me. For the record, Boro to lose 1-0

Cheers Franks