Nice 1 Liebour

[erimus74]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/pensions/reeves-national-insurance-raid-cost-workers-2k-retirement/

Looking after the working man, not

[In With the Lurpak]

He's been prancing about in Paris today with Macron riding an open top around thinking he is Winston Churchill.
 

Last year the same bloke ripped his poppy off not to upset you know who in a video address to them.

Worst PM since Tony Blair / catching up fast though and will be just as bad if not worse.

[erimus74]

Starmer & 4 of his sayings

My dad was a tool maker
My mam worked for the NHS
14 years of tories
Let me be clear

Hes a boring so & so

[Doyle1979]

Political promises can only be broken by not following through on your manifesto promises. No manifesto policy has yet to be broken.

Not backing them just challenging your opinions that they have created the countries problems in 3 months. The right think I'm left and the left think I'm right.





I seriously don't know why you didn't vote for Labour in General Election because you back them to the hilt on here.

[Doyle1979]

Political promises can only be broken by not following through on your manifesto promises. No manifesto policy has yet to be broken.

Not backing them just challenging your opinions that they have created the countries problems in 3 months. The right think I'm left and the left think I'm right.





I seriously don't know why you didn't vote for Labour in General Election because you back them to the hilt on here.

You only see what you want to see.I've criticised them many times but yiu don't see that as you only want to see what you've decided I am. Got kicked off FMTTM for challenging their left wing views.

[Doyle1979]

Political promises can only be broken by not following through on your manifesto promises. No manifesto policy has yet to be broken.

From Sky News.
#Sir Keir Starmer to pledge 'elite' Border Unit with anti-terror powers to stop small boats~



He's stopped nothing . Things have got worse. He even promised to stop housing illegals in hotels but what he actually done was open more.

That is not a manifesto pledge being broken. You judge a government once they've completed their term in office. Non of it really bothers me or affects my life tbh. I've bigger things going on to deal with.

[Doyle1979]

@In With the Lurpak i studied politics and economics for 4 years. It's very simple how it works. Everything you think is true isn't and everything the left think is true isn't. Mostly the truth is somewhere inbetween the left and rights views. Neither side can tell the actual truth as that would mean they've reached a consensus and have nothing to argue over and divide ppl with. So the only way to have a left and a right is for both sides to give you half baked stories so there is difference and a reason for some to go right and some to go left. Nothing you believe is the truth it's just a half baked truth. We wouldn't have a political system if the truth was told. Nobody knows anything. It's why it's best to listen and be challenged as your opinion isn't the truth. No ones is

[Doyle1979]

@In With the Lurpak and essentially all politics and economics are at their most basic level is who gets what, when and how. That's it basically. It's really dead simple

[Nosmo-King]

Political promises can only be broken by not following through on your manifesto promises. No manifesto policy has yet to be broken.

From Sky News.
#Sir Keir Starmer to pledge 'elite' Border Unit with anti-terror powers to stop small boats~



He's stopped nothing . Things have got worse. He even promised to stop housing illegals in hotels but what he actually done was open more.

That is not a manifesto pledge being broken. You judge a government once they've completed their term in office. Non of it really bothers me or affects my life tbh. I've bigger things going on to deal with.

That's bollocks. You don't have to wait 5 years to judge a government. You judge on what they do,the implications that arise from such decisions. This is very much an on going basis.

Wait 5 years and the charge sheet room wouldn't be sufficient.....

[Doyle1979]

@Nosmo-King its absolutely what you should do. A manifesto is based on that period of time. If someone gives you a wall to build over a 3 months period you don't sack them after a month for not completing it. You may decide earlier you're not happy with the government but their manifesto  has not got a 2 year time frame. It's based on the period in office.

[Nosmo-King]

@Nosmo-King its absolutely what you should do. A manifesto is based on that period of time. If someone gives you a wall to build over a 3 months period you don't sack them after a month for not completing it. You may decide earlier you're not happy with the government but their manifesto  has not got a 2 year time frame. It's based on the period in office.

Budget? Questioned- and thats been polite.

No tax rises for individuals - yeah righto.

Pensioners fuel payments axed.

Labours critical view of Trump - and it's a lot more than Lammy.

Budget implications on future employment - companies likely to shed staff through NI increase.

Budget implications on farmers and farming.....

And this is for starters.

Inexperienced, incompetent and ineffective. That sums up Labours early days in office. And they need to be accountable.

[Doyle1979]

@Nosmo-King if yiu read what I wrote above non of what yiu believe is true it's just bits of truth. The truth can never be revealed as then there's no political system. No one knows anything just half baked propaganda. You're conned into thinking you live in a democracy but in reality you don't and your vote is worthless. Elections are decided by a very small amount of swing voters. Most people don't use critical thinking as they're totally brainwashed  and will only vote right or left. That makes it easier to control the country. The US was won essentially by 7 swing states. The rest we know which way they'll vote. The last Tory governments were so political inept to a level we'll hopefully never see again that a bloke as unelectable as Starmer didn't have to say anything for 4 years as he was always going to win as the Tories were just creating one disaster after another. He had an open goal but normally he'd not win. The shit they left the country in after 14 years ca t be levelled at Starmer 3 months in. I don't hold much hope for this government but the Tories made the unelectable electable. They were so horrendously incompetent and corrupt a fuckwit like Starmer was the only option.

[Doyle1979]

@Nosmo-King look at how farmers are currently being used to brainwash. What the fuck do most ppl know about farming to be able to have an opinion on it. Not a clue but both sides are now farming experts. Their party is telling them to take our side on an issue they know nothing about. Most ppl have no idea how the political system works at the most basic level. That's the case the world over. Most people don't even know the name of the MP they voted for they think they voted for the party leader. All your political opinions are not true like everyone's. Ppl just have different versions of bullshit they think are true.

[BoroRedKen]

Sue Gray sacked by SKS.......

[Doyle1979]

Sue Gray sacked by SKS.......

That was all somewhat sketchy. She was never really impartial enough to investigate the Tory government when she had such strong links to Starme.

[Nosmo-King]

@Nosmo-King look at how farmers are currently being used to brainwash. What the fuck do most ppl know about farming to be able to have an opinion on it. Not a clue but both sides are now farming experts. Their party is telling them to take our side on an issue they know nothing about. Most ppl have no idea how the political system works at the most basic level. That's the case the world over. Most people don't even know the name of the MP they voted for they think they voted for the party leader. All your political opinions are not true like everyone's. Ppl just have different versions of bullshit they think are true.

Give over you patronising prat. You state opinion as fact - who looks the fool?

[Doyle1979]

@Nosmo-King look at how farmers are currently being used to brainwash. What the fuck do most ppl know about farming to be able to have an opinion on it. Not a clue but both sides are now farming experts. Their party is telling them to take our side on an issue they know nothing about. Most ppl have no idea how the political system works at the most basic level. That's the case the world over. Most people don't even know the name of the MP they voted for they think they voted for the party leader. All your political opinions are not true like everyone's. Ppl just have different versions of bullshit they think are true.

Give over you patronising prat. You state opinion as fact - who looks the fool?

That is how politics works.thats the system of control. I'm not being patronising. Im explaining how it works. I know how the system works everyone does that studies it. But my political views are not true. No ones are as they're ideological and that's impossible to have be correct. The system is not open for debate but all ideologies are half baked info. No one holds the truth. It's like when you're in crown court. The truth is irrelevant it's which side can tell the best version that the jury go with. The truth is rarely told.

[BoroRedKen]

Rory Stewart.

https://x.com/RoryStewartUK/status/1856353922895557046

[Doyle1979]

Rory Stewart.

https://x.com/RoryStewartUK/status/1856353922895557046

Odd to openly attach and praise him after the revelations. Lack of judgement

[Doyle1979]

I shall tell you why i wont allow talk to much about crossings etc.

A fake, Photoshopped post.

It took the title from a thread i started called "Dinghy Crossing numbers just released."

Oh it said that alright when some "unknown" cunt sent it to HNH and SUTR.

With soooo much else added that did not orginate from here.

"Going to find where you live and burn your house down with you in it".
"Going to find you, run you down and chop your legs off".
Too many shooting and stabbing threats to count.

1 particular "favourite" was what they were going to do to "my wife and any female in my home".

It got that bad that i was "advised to consider moving or beefing up my home security with cctv etc".


Now i aint no tough guy. But the day i bow to unknown faceless shithouses is the day i walk off Huntcliffe. I can only deal with shit when its smack bang in front of me.

BUT THATS ME.

Them threats could seriously worry somebody not so "unbothered".

So in the interests of others safety etc i will not allow too much convos about "immigration" on here.

I got a number of them but non of them would come to speak face to face. Shithouses threatening kids and women. Hot air

[BoroRedKen]

I live on my own so i only have to protect myself.

I think if i had a Mrs and kids at home though i would of been concerned.

[BoroRedKen]

Im not saying sometimes i didnt think "ohh thats a bit much".

I know where things are around my gaff if i have to protect myself.

But maybe that shows im downplaying it to myself...
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[BoroRedKen]

Had not realised that til now.
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