Things you were never told

Started by ZiEgE, October 07, 2024, 10:01:46 PM

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ZiEgE

In 1990, Sadam Hussein asked the US Ambassador to Iraq, April Glaspie for a meeting.

There is a transcript of this meaning as a matter of public record.

In the meeting Saddam said "the UN has confirmed that Kuwait is stealing Iraqi oil, does the US know about this?"

The ambassador confirmed the US believed the UN reports to be accurate and that Kuwait was in the wrong.

Saddam continued "Iraq cannot let this stand and action will have to be taken."

To which the US ambassador said "The US in unconcerned about what Arab states do to other Arab states".

This was never mentioned on your politically impartial BBC. The BBC told you that it was Saddams brazen ambition and greed that led to that invasion.

Up next, the murder of David Kelly and the weapons of mass destruction lies....


BoroRedKen

Why do you make me feel nervous when i open a Chrissy thread?

😅

NIBZ

Quote from: ZiEgE on October 07, 2024, 10:01:46 PMIn 1990, Sadam Hussein asked the US Ambassador to Iraq, April Glaspie for a meeting.

There is a transcript of this meaning as a matter of public record.

In the meeting Saddam said "the UN has confirmed that Kuwait is stealing Iraqi oil, does the US know about this?"

The ambassador confirmed the US believed the UN reports to be accurate and that Kuwait was in the wrong.

Saddam continued "Iraq cannot let this stand and action will have to be taken."

To which the US ambassador said "The US in unconcerned about what Arab states do to other Arab states".

This was never mentioned on your politically impartial BBC. The BBC told you that it was Saddams brazen ambition and greed that led to that invasion.

Up next, the murder of David Kelly and the weapons of mass destruction lies....



The whole thing stunk even back then. Still playin the games now

LIDDLE_TOWERS999

YOU FORGOT TO MENTION....ALL THE KURDS HE MUSTARD GASSED 🙄🙄🙄 YOU SPOTTY BIG SKINNY GERMAN CUNT....

SO WE WHERE LIED TO ABOUT WOMD 👍👍👍

35 YEARS AGO GET OVER IT 👍👍👍


ALL I DO KNOW SADAM AND HIS SONS WHERE FUCKING DESPOTS AND TYRANTS YOU HOLYIER THAN HOLYIER CUNT....HE DIDN'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT HIS PEOPLE NEITHER.....SEE THE COINCIDENCE....HAMAS AND HEZBOLLAH...YOU ARAB FUCKING SYMPATHETIC ARSEWIPE   :winston:
GET WELL SOON STEVE G

teamboro

Quote from: LIDDLE_TOWERS999 on October 08, 2024, 02:48:03 AMYOU FORGOT TO MENTION....ALL THE KURDS HE MUSTARD GASSED 🙄🙄🙄 YOU SPOTTY BIG SKINNY GERMAN CUNT....

SO WE WHERE LIED TO ABOUT WOMD 👍👍👍

35 YEARS AGO GET OVER IT 👍👍👍


ALL I DO KNOW SADAM AND HIS SONS WHERE FUCKING DESPOTS AND TYRANTS YOU HOLYIER THAN HOLYIER CUNT....HE DIDN'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT HIS PEOPLE NEITHER.....SEE THE COINCIDENCE....HAMAS AND HEZBOLLAH...YOU ARAB FUCKING SYMPATHETIC ARSEWIPE   :winston:
Funny how Sadam was a friend of The West only because he wanted to drop the dollar as payment for oil same as Gaddafi didn't want to follow the US Sadam was supposed to have weapons of mass destruction (nuclear weapons) Did they find any errr nope  :winston:
TEESSIDER and Proud  of the area unlike some and I'm not a Racist

RiversideRifle

Quote from: ZiEgE on October 07, 2024, 10:01:46 PMIn 1990, Sadam Hussein asked the US Ambassador to Iraq, April Glaspie for a meeting.

There is a transcript of this meaning as a matter of public record.

In the meeting Saddam said "the UN has confirmed that Kuwait is stealing Iraqi oil, does the US know about this?"

The ambassador confirmed the US believed the UN reports to be accurate and that Kuwait was in the wrong.

Saddam continued "Iraq cannot let this stand and action will have to be taken."

To which the US ambassador said "The US in unconcerned about what Arab states do to other Arab states".

This was never mentioned on your politically impartial BBC. The BBC told you that it was Saddams brazen ambition and greed that led to that invasion.

Up next, the murder of David Kelly and the weapons of mass destruction lies....



You got a link to the transcript? Saddam was a cunt thank fuck he's dead
UTB

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TerryCochranesSocks

Not only was the Iraq war and the eventual ousting of Hussein based on lies about WMD it was also a huge mistake in that it led to the creation of ISIS. This in turn has led to terrorist atrocities across the western world.
You can't be in favour of the Iraq wars and bemoan the Manchester Arena bombing, the London bus bombing etc.
Well, you can, but it's a daft position.

"US intelligence helped Saddam's Ba`ath Party seize power for the first time in 1963. Evidence suggests that Saddam was on the CIA payroll as early as 1959, when he participated in a failed assassination attempt against Iraqi strongman Abd al-Karim Qassem. In the 1980s, the US and Britain backed Saddam in the war against Iran, giving Iraq arms, money, satellite intelligence, and even chemical & bio-weapon precursors. As many as 90 US military advisors supported Iraqi forces and helped pick targets for Iraqi air and missile attacks." 
From Global Policy Forum

Redsteel (Moderator)

Quote from: TerryCochranesSocks on October 08, 2024, 08:17:28 AMNot only was the Iraq war and the eventual ousting of Hussein based on lies about WMD it was also a huge mistake in that it led to the creation of ISIS. This in turn has led to terrorist atrocities across the western world.
You can't be in favour of the Iraq wars and bemoan the Manchester Arena bombing, the London bus bombing etc.
Well, you can, but it's a daft position.

"US intelligence helped Saddam's Ba`ath Party seize power for the first time in 1963. Evidence suggests that Saddam was on the CIA payroll as early as 1959, when he participated in a failed assassination attempt against Iraqi strongman Abd al-Karim Qassem. In the 1980s, the US and Britain backed Saddam in the war against Iran, giving Iraq arms, money, satellite intelligence, and even chemical & bio-weapon precursors. As many as 90 US military advisors supported Iraqi forces and helped pick targets for Iraqi air and missile attacks." 
From Global Policy Forum

Also see Afghanistan and the US over the last 40 odd years.

TerryCochranesSocks


Redsteel (Moderator)


teamboro

What you all fail to realise is it all traces back to one British family I've mentioned them many times but they are behind everything that is happening in the shit world we now live in
TEESSIDER and Proud  of the area unlike some and I'm not a Racist

Ayton Mews


TerryCochranesSocks

I was going to say the Duckworths but that's better Matty.

BoroRedKen

Partridge?

Never trusted the Jacksons either.........

LG1660

Served during the ground offensive in 1991 and if running away was an Olympic event, then the Iraqi 'elite' Republican Guard would win gold no bother

tunstall

Quote from: teamboro on October 08, 2024, 12:19:25 PMWhat you all fail to realise is it all traces back to one British family I've mentioned them many times but they are behind everything that is happening in the shit world we now live in

The Gibsons?

Boro lost at the weekend so might as well blame him for everything going wrong in the world.

ZiEgE

Quote from: LIDDLE_TOWERS999 on October 08, 2024, 02:48:03 AMYOU FORGOT TO MENTION....ALL THE KURDS HE MUSTARD GASSED 🙄🙄🙄 YOU SPOTTY BIG SKINNY GERMAN CUNT....

SO WE WHERE LIED TO ABOUT WOMD 👍👍👍

35 YEARS AGO GET OVER IT 👍👍👍


ALL I DO KNOW SADAM AND HIS SONS WHERE FUCKING DESPOTS AND TYRANTS YOU HOLYIER THAN HOLYIER CUNT....HE DIDN'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT HIS PEOPLE NEITHER.....SEE THE COINCIDENCE....HAMAS AND HEZBOLLAH...YOU ARAB FUCKING SYMPATHETIC ARSEWIPE   :winston:

I agree Saddam and his sons were barbaric warlords and I shed no tears for them.

But when nation states lie to their people about why they send their militaries to war we don't live in a democracy we live in a totalitarian state which pretends to be a democracy.

I wasn't trying to make a point that Iraq was a freedom loving peaceful country.

I was making the point that your government can lie to you without restriction and your "free" media will kowtoe to government and not challenge it as it was designed to.

I'm trying to wake you up that was that government and media tell you about Ukraine and Palestine are equally as bullshit as the what they told you about gulf War 1, gulf War 2, 9/11, covid, I could go on and on.

Oh and it was 33 years ago, I'll get over it - how long ago was the holocaust?????


ZiEgE

Quote from: BoroRedKen on October 07, 2024, 10:21:35 PMWhy do you make me feel nervous when i open a Chrissy thread?

😅

I know not to cross the line Ken.

LIDDLE_TOWERS999

Quote from: ZiEgE on October 09, 2024, 01:05:56 PM
Quote from: LIDDLE_TOWERS999 on October 08, 2024, 02:48:03 AMYOU FORGOT TO MENTION....ALL THE KURDS HE MUSTARD GASSED 🙄🙄🙄 YOU SPOTTY BIG SKINNY GERMAN CUNT....

SO WE WHERE LIED TO ABOUT WOMD 👍👍👍

35 YEARS AGO GET OVER IT 👍👍👍


ALL I DO KNOW SADAM AND HIS SONS WHERE FUCKING DESPOTS AND TYRANTS YOU HOLYIER THAN HOLYIER CUNT....HE DIDN'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT HIS PEOPLE NEITHER.....SEE THE COINCIDENCE....HAMAS AND HEZBOLLAH...YOU ARAB FUCKING SYMPATHETIC ARSEWIPE   :winston:

I agree Saddam and his sons were barbaric warlords and I shed no tears for them.

But when nation states lie to their people about why they send their militaries to war we don't live in a democracy we live in a totalitarian state which pretends to be a democracy.

I wasn't trying to make a point that Iraq was a freedom loving peaceful country.

I was making the point that your government can lie to you without restriction and your "free" media will kowtoe to government and not challenge it as it was designed to.

I'm trying to wake you up that was that government and media tell you about Ukraine and Palestine are equally as bullshit as the what they told you about gulf War 1, gulf War 2, 9/11, covid, I could go on and on.

Oh and it was 33 years ago, I'll get over it - how long ago was the holocaust?????




IF YOU WANT MY HONEST OPINION WE SHOULD NOT BE GETTING INVOLVED IN ANY CUNTS WARS....ONLY IF WE GET ATTACKED SHOULD WE GO TO WAR 👍🙄👍
GET WELL SOON STEVE G

Redsteel (Moderator)

Quote from: LIDDLE_TOWERS999 on October 09, 2024, 01:57:10 PM
Quote from: ZiEgE on October 09, 2024, 01:05:56 PM
Quote from: LIDDLE_TOWERS999 on October 08, 2024, 02:48:03 AMYOU FORGOT TO MENTION....ALL THE KURDS HE MUSTARD GASSED 🙄🙄🙄 YOU SPOTTY BIG SKINNY GERMAN CUNT....

SO WE WHERE LIED TO ABOUT WOMD 👍👍👍

35 YEARS AGO GET OVER IT 👍👍👍


ALL I DO KNOW SADAM AND HIS SONS WHERE FUCKING DESPOTS AND TYRANTS YOU HOLYIER THAN HOLYIER CUNT....HE DIDN'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT HIS PEOPLE NEITHER.....SEE THE COINCIDENCE....HAMAS AND HEZBOLLAH...YOU ARAB FUCKING SYMPATHETIC ARSEWIPE   :winston:

I agree Saddam and his sons were barbaric warlords and I shed no tears for them.

But when nation states lie to their people about why they send their militaries to war we don't live in a democracy we live in a totalitarian state which pretends to be a democracy.

I wasn't trying to make a point that Iraq was a freedom loving peaceful country.

I was making the point that your government can lie to you without restriction and your "free" media will kowtoe to government and not challenge it as it was designed to.

I'm trying to wake you up that was that government and media tell you about Ukraine and Palestine are equally as bullshit as the what they told you about gulf War 1, gulf War 2, 9/11, covid, I could go on and on.

Oh and it was 33 years ago, I'll get over it - how long ago was the holocaust?????




IF YOU WANT MY HONEST OPINION WE SHOULD NOT BE GETTING INVOLVED IN ANY CUNTS WARS....ONLY IF WE GET ATTACKED SHOULD WE GO TO WAR 👍🙄👍

I agree with what you are saying, but sometimes you simply can't turn your back on certain conflicts. WW2 is a perfect example, we did the right thing from a strategic point and most of all, morality. What the Germans and Japanese had in their plans, for those they deemed beneath them, doesn't bear thinking about.

LIDDLE_TOWERS999

Quote from: Redsteel (Moderator) on October 09, 2024, 03:18:28 PM
Quote from: LIDDLE_TOWERS999 on October 09, 2024, 01:57:10 PM
Quote from: ZiEgE on October 09, 2024, 01:05:56 PM
Quote from: LIDDLE_TOWERS999 on October 08, 2024, 02:48:03 AMYOU FORGOT TO MENTION....ALL THE KURDS HE MUSTARD GASSED 🙄🙄🙄 YOU SPOTTY BIG SKINNY GERMAN CUNT....

SO WE WHERE LIED TO ABOUT WOMD 👍👍👍

35 YEARS AGO GET OVER IT 👍👍👍


ALL I DO KNOW SADAM AND HIS SONS WHERE FUCKING DESPOTS AND TYRANTS YOU HOLYIER THAN HOLYIER CUNT....HE DIDN'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT HIS PEOPLE NEITHER.....SEE THE COINCIDENCE....HAMAS AND HEZBOLLAH...YOU ARAB FUCKING SYMPATHETIC ARSEWIPE   :winston:

I agree Saddam and his sons were barbaric warlords and I shed no tears for them.

But when nation states lie to their people about why they send their militaries to war we don't live in a democracy we live in a totalitarian state which pretends to be a democracy.

I wasn't trying to make a point that Iraq was a freedom loving peaceful country.

I was making the point that your government can lie to you without restriction and your "free" media will kowtoe to government and not challenge it as it was designed to.

I'm trying to wake you up that was that government and media tell you about Ukraine and Palestine are equally as bullshit as the what they told you about gulf War 1, gulf War 2, 9/11, covid, I could go on and on.

Oh and it was 33 years ago, I'll get over it - how long ago was the holocaust?????




IF YOU WANT MY HONEST OPINION WE SHOULD NOT BE GETTING INVOLVED IN ANY CUNTS WARS....ONLY IF WE GET ATTACKED SHOULD WE GO TO WAR 👍🙄👍

I agree with what you are saying, but sometimes you simply can't turn your back on certain conflicts. WW2 is a perfect example, we did the right thing from a strategic point and most of all, morality. What the Germans and Japanese had in their plans, for those they deemed beneath them, doesn't bear thinking about.


I WATCHED MELLY CHRISTMAS MR LAWRENCE LAST NIGHT ON YOU TUBE AGAIN....AND THEM GRANARY BAPS WHERE RIGHT ORRIBLE CUNTS 👍😡😡😡👍
GET WELL SOON STEVE G

ZiEgE

Quote from: Redsteel (Moderator) on October 09, 2024, 03:18:28 PM
Quote from: LIDDLE_TOWERS999 on October 09, 2024, 01:57:10 PM
Quote from: ZiEgE on October 09, 2024, 01:05:56 PM
Quote from: LIDDLE_TOWERS999 on October 08, 2024, 02:48:03 AMYOU FORGOT TO MENTION....ALL THE KURDS HE MUSTARD GASSED 🙄🙄🙄 YOU SPOTTY BIG SKINNY GERMAN CUNT....

SO WE WHERE LIED TO ABOUT WOMD 👍👍👍

35 YEARS AGO GET OVER IT 👍👍👍


ALL I DO KNOW SADAM AND HIS SONS WHERE FUCKING DESPOTS AND TYRANTS YOU HOLYIER THAN HOLYIER CUNT....HE DIDN'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT HIS PEOPLE NEITHER.....SEE THE COINCIDENCE....HAMAS AND HEZBOLLAH...YOU ARAB FUCKING SYMPATHETIC ARSEWIPE   :winston:

I agree Saddam and his sons were barbaric warlords and I shed no tears for them.

But when nation states lie to their people about why they send their militaries to war we don't live in a democracy we live in a totalitarian state which pretends to be a democracy.

I wasn't trying to make a point that Iraq was a freedom loving peaceful country.

I was making the point that your government can lie to you without restriction and your "free" media will kowtoe to government and not challenge it as it was designed to.

I'm trying to wake you up that was that government and media tell you about Ukraine and Palestine are equally as bullshit as the what they told you about gulf War 1, gulf War 2, 9/11, covid, I could go on and on.

Oh and it was 33 years ago, I'll get over it - how long ago was the holocaust?????




IF YOU WANT MY HONEST OPINION WE SHOULD NOT BE GETTING INVOLVED IN ANY CUNTS WARS....ONLY IF WE GET ATTACKED SHOULD WE GO TO WAR 👍🙄👍

I agree with what you are saying, but sometimes you simply can't turn your back on certain conflicts. WW2 is a perfect example, we did the right thing from a strategic point and most of all, morality. What the Germans and Japanese had in their plans, for those they deemed beneath them, doesn't bear thinking about.

The only thing is that is not why we got involved in that war.

Russia and Germany BOTH invaded Poland (whos actions after the first World War were horrific, they invaded parts of Germany and Ukraine), but we only declared war against one.

The reality is some in this country saw Germany as a direct threat to our empire and our Navy. And that Churchil was an alcoholic gambling addict who owned money to a lot of powerful and wealthy Jewish interests.

After Jueda declared war on Germany in 1933 they had to mobilise the major powers to oppose them.

Oh what's that?

You didn't know Jueda declared war on Germany?


beverly hills tennis

Funny how your version of history is filled with things you didn't know eh?

Clem Fandango

Erm.... that was a boycott of German goods because the Nazis had already started persecuting Jews in Germany.

Of course people saw Germany as a threat.  It was only 20 years between world wars and in that period Germany had been shafted economically and we knew they wanted revenge. 

NIBZ

Quote from: ZiEgE on October 09, 2024, 06:14:44 PM
Quote from: Redsteel (Moderator) on October 09, 2024, 03:18:28 PM
Quote from: LIDDLE_TOWERS999 on October 09, 2024, 01:57:10 PM
Quote from: ZiEgE on October 09, 2024, 01:05:56 PM
Quote from: LIDDLE_TOWERS999 on October 08, 2024, 02:48:03 AMYOU FORGOT TO MENTION....ALL THE KURDS HE MUSTARD GASSED 🙄🙄🙄 YOU SPOTTY BIG SKINNY GERMAN CUNT....

SO WE WHERE LIED TO ABOUT WOMD 👍👍👍

35 YEARS AGO GET OVER IT 👍👍👍


ALL I DO KNOW SADAM AND HIS SONS WHERE FUCKING DESPOTS AND TYRANTS YOU HOLYIER THAN HOLYIER CUNT....HE DIDN'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT HIS PEOPLE NEITHER.....SEE THE COINCIDENCE....HAMAS AND HEZBOLLAH...YOU ARAB FUCKING SYMPATHETIC ARSEWIPE  :winston:

I agree Saddam and his sons were barbaric warlords and I shed no tears for them.

But when nation states lie to their people about why they send their militaries to war we don't live in a democracy we live in a totalitarian state which pretends to be a democracy.

I wasn't trying to make a point that Iraq was a freedom loving peaceful country.

I was making the point that your government can lie to you without restriction and your "free" media will kowtoe to government and not challenge it as it was designed to.

I'm trying to wake you up that was that government and media tell you about Ukraine and Palestine are equally as bullshit as the what they told you about gulf War 1, gulf War 2, 9/11, covid, I could go on and on.

Oh and it was 33 years ago, I'll get over it - how long ago was the holocaust?????




IF YOU WANT MY HONEST OPINION WE SHOULD NOT BE GETTING INVOLVED IN ANY CUNTS WARS....ONLY IF WE GET ATTACKED SHOULD WE GO TO WAR 👍🙄👍

I agree with what you are saying, but sometimes you simply can't turn your back on certain conflicts. WW2 is a perfect example, we did the right thing from a strategic point and most of all, morality. What the Germans and Japanese had in their plans, for those they deemed beneath them, doesn't bear thinking about.

The only thing is that is not why we got involved in that war.

Russia and Germany BOTH invaded Poland (whos actions after the first World War were horrific, they invaded parts of Germany and Ukraine), but we only declared war against one.

The reality is some in this country saw Germany as a direct threat to our empire and our Navy. And that Churchil was an alcoholic gambling addict who owned money to a lot of powerful and wealthy Jewish interests.

After Jueda declared war on Germany in 1933 they had to mobilise the major powers to oppose them.

Oh what's that?

You didn't know Jueda declared war on Germany?


beverly hills tennis

Funny how your version of history is filled with things you didn't know eh?


Cunt shot with a canon and still kneelin ? :rudi: