Sunderland v Boro match thread

[erimus74]

Massive derby game this weekend

After our frustrating home draw against Preston last Saturday, we travel to Wearside for this early/midday kickoff against once Championship leaders Sunderland, who last weekend lost their 100% & unbeaten start to the season with a 3-2 defeat at Plymouth Argyle
Boro have a decent away record under Carrick plus i'm expecting a more open game on saturday which should suit us allowing us to play more our game

I would guess Morris will be the only change from the starting line up from the Preston game replacing Barlasar
These will be Morris's toughest opponents of the season, him & Hackney will have to be 100% on top of their game, he's been a great signing so far & deserved the plaudits but Sunderland's energetic midfield will be a massive test for him, they'll be right up for this, as will Morris

Will Azaz have more opportunity & space against Sunderland, he was well marked against Preston & with tightly marked he couldn't find much room to spray passes about & struggled to show what he can do
McGrees lack of match fitness will see him again on the bench with Azaz keeping his place, if we're in a good position to introduce McGree  then great

It's a shame the game comes to soon for McGree, VDB, Forss, three big players who would be close to our starting eleven most weeks, Howson another influential player missing through injury, who can't be far away

Dieng, Ayling, Edmundson (VBD probably not ready yet) Clarke, Borges, Morris, Hackney, Jones, Conway, Azaz (McGree not ready yet) ELL


We've played Sunderland in the PL, 1st division, 2nd division, FAC, league cup, Anglo Scottish Cup & Texaco cup

1st away fixture on Wearside - 3rd December 1887 Sunderland 4 Boro 2
Won - 15
Drew - 21
Lost - 38
Goals for - 79
Goals against - 129


No away hat tricks v Sunderland


Away debuts v Sunderland

2/9/1911 - John Stirling & Edward Eyre away lost 1-0
24/4/1948 - Chris Johnston away lost 3-0
28/11/1953 - Joseph Berbeck away won 2-0
21/8/2016 - Brad Guzan away won 2-1 - Our 73rd 1st team keeper


Away penalties v Sunderland

01/04/1907 - Alf Common lost 2-4 - Our 9th penalty
02/04/1910 - RT Young drew 2-2 - Our 15th penalty
22/10/1938 - Benjamin Yortson won 2-1 - Our 38th penalty
27/2/1960 - Bill Harris drew 2-2 - Our 57th penalty
11/11/1961 - Arthur Kaye lost 1-2 - Our 59th penalty
24/2/2018 - Grant Leadbitter drew 3-3 - Our 129th penalty


A number of players who played for both team

Alf Common - In February 1905, he broke the transfer record again by moving to Middlesbrough for £1,000, becoming the World's first £1000 Footballer. The Boro had purchased Common in an attempt to avoid relegation to the Second Division. His first game for Middlesbrough was on 25 February 1905, away to his former club Sheffield United. Boro won 1–0, with Common scoring from a penalty after 50 minutes, it was their first away win for nearly two years. Consequently, the team, who had so far been battling against relegation that season, survived the drop. He played 168 league games for Boro and scored 58 goals.
Brian Clough - For Boro - 1955 - 61, 213 games scored 197 goals, for Sunderland - 1961 - 64, 61 games, scored 54 goals.
Stan Anderson - Captained all 3 north east teams, Boro, Newcastle & Sunderland, Boro were almost doomed when he took over but with his signings, he made 66-67 a season to remember, for all the right reasons.
Alan Foggan - Played 115 games for the Boro between 1972 -1976 - scoring 45 goals, he was Stan Anderson's 2nd last signing, made 8 appearances for Sunderland with no goals in season 1976-77
David Hodgson - Played for the Boro between 1978 -1982 - 125 games, scoring 16 goals then returning to the Boro in 1987 on loan for 2 games, it should have been more but Hodgy was sent off in his 2nd game at Ayresome Park & never played again. In between he played for Sunderland between 1984 - 86 - 40 games & scored 5 goals.
Mark Proctor - Played for the Boro between 1978 -1981 - 109 games, scoring 12 goals then returning to the Boro in 1989 -1993 - 120 games, 6 goals. In between he played for Sunderland between 1983 - 87 - 117 games & scored 20 goals.
Stan Cummins - He played for Boro between 1975 -79 - 44 games, 9 goals.  He joined Sunderland in November 1979 at the age of 20, for £300,000, the Club's most expensive signing in their 100-year history. Between 1979 - 1983, he played 133 games, 29 goals & re-signed for Sunderland 1984-85 season, 17 games 0 goals.
Joe Bolton – 1972-81 played 272 games for Sunderland scoring 11 goals, signed for the Boro 1981-83 played 59 games & scoring one goal, which was against Notts County at AP, Boro won 3-0
Gary Rowell - Played 257 games for Sunderland scoring 88 goals between 1974 - 84. Played 27 games for the Boro season 1985-86 scoring 10 goals.
Mick Buckley – Played 121 games for Sunderland scoring 7 goals between 1978 -83, Willie Maddren signed him for the Boro 1984-85 season, playing 27 games, scoring the one goal.
John Kay – Our 3rd loanee when Willie Maddren brought him in from Wimbledon in 1984-85, he played 8 games, no goals at FB, then went to Sunderland between 87 - 96 playing 199 games without scoring
Peter Davenport – 1988–89 signed for the Boro manager but managed just four goals from 24 games as Boro slipped back into the Football League Second Division. 1989–90 Davenport managed a mere three goals from 35 league games, by the end of the season Bruce Rioch had gone & Boro were now managed by Colin Todd. Signed for Sunderland in July 1990
Grant Leadbitter - Played 111 games for Sunderland scoring 11 goals between 2003 - 09. Signing for the Boro in 2012 played 164 games scoring 24 goals.
Paddy McNair - Tony Pulis signed Paddy at the start of the 2018 season for £5m, playing approx 145 games, scoring 13 goals
Lee Cattermole – Played 69 games for the Boro scoring 3 goals, signed for Sunderland in 2009 played 140 games, scoring 2 goals
Julia Arca – Played 167 games for Sunderland scoring 23 goals between 2000 – 06. Played 180 games for the Boro scoring 9 goals between 2006 – 13.
Dean Whitehead - Played 185 games for Sunderland scoring 13 goals between 2004 – 09. Played 55 games for the Boro scoring 1 goal between 2013 – 15. He scored his only Boro goal away to Derby in a 2-1 defeat.
Shay Given - He became only the sixth player to have represented Boro, Newcastle & Sunderland, after Joseph Blackett, William Agnew, Tommy Urwin, Stan Anderson & Alan Foggon and the first to do so since 1976, when Foggon made his debut for Sunderland.
Bola Zenden – Signed onloan for the Boro in season 2003-04 playing 31 goals scoring 4 goals, including a memorable cup final winning penalty, signed the following season playing 36 games & scoring 5 goals, Lazio being one of them, left for Liverpool the following season, 05-06 & in season 2009-2011 his career took a turn for the worse when he signed for Sunderland, playing 47 games & scoring a lucky 4 goals
Allan Johnston – Played 87 games for Sunderland 1997 – 2000 scoring 17 goals, signed for the Boro for £600k in 2001 – 2004, played 17 games & scoring one goal away top West Ham.
Justin Hoyte - Played 27 games for Sunderland scoring 1 goal between season 2005-06, while on loan from Arsenal, Southgate signed JH for £3m, 2008 -14, he played 142 games for the Boro scoring 2 goals, one was a cracker Friday night sky live match against Sheff Weds that put us top of the championship.
Adam Johnson –1999 – 2010 played 96 games for the Boro, scoring 13 goals, he played for Sunderland 2012 - 2-16, playing 122 games, scoring 19 goals.
Danny Graham - Played 15 games for the Boro between 2004 - 2007, after a number of clubs he unfortunately between 2013-16 he found himself at Sunderland, playing 37 games, scoring the one goals, scoring one goal, Sunderland loaned him to Boro in 2014, playing 18 games, scoring 6 goals
Matt Kilgallon – 2010 – 13 played 23 games for Sunderland no goals, loaned to the Boro 2010 played 2 games no goals

C'mon Boro!

[Clem Fandango]

 

[LIDDLE_TOWERS999]

WE NEED TO GET SOMETHING FROM THIS GAME....IF WE GET BEAT CAN SEE CARRICK GETTING A BIT OF STICK....HE NEEDS TO GET HIS TEAM SELECTION SPOT ON FOR THIS...AND IF IT'S NOT WORKING MAKE CHANGES 5 MINUTES AFTER HALF TIME...NOT WAIT TILL 75 MINS OR LATER...MUST HAVE PLAN B IN PLACE...

BLACK ⚫️ CATS 🐈  2 BORO 🔴 🦁 LIONS 2


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[In With the Lurpak]

Been offered at ticket from a Mackem at work to go to this one, Have to decide by Friday, Wants me to go Drinking in some place in Seaham that's opening up early enough to get a few scoops in before the 12.30 kick off. Id be sat with Mackem's in the boozer & the Match . Boro score I can't start jumping about really can I. they score he's gonna be revelling in it . Tricky one.

I can see the high flying Mackem's winning it anyway , Sunderland 3 - 1 Boro       

[teamboro]

Well after nearly knocking Lath down at work yesterday lol it's going to be a hard game great write up E-Man

1-1 hopefully

[erimus74]

Well after nearly knocking Lath down at work yesterday lol it's going to be a hard game great write up E-Man

1-1 hopefully

Cheers teamboro
Fingers crossed he realises how lucky he's been & thanks your awareness with a brace on saturday

[erimus74]

Been offered at ticket from a Mackem at work to go to this one, Have to decide by Friday, Wants me to go Drinking in some place in Seaham that's opening up early enough to get a few scoops in before the 12.30 kick off. Id be sat with Mackem's in the boozer & the Match . Boro score I can't start jumping about really can I. they score he's gonna be revelling in it . Tricky one.

I can see the high flying Mackem's winning it anyway , Sunderland 3 - 1 Boro       

Me & my younger brother got tickets in the home end for a league cup tie back in 2012, Scott McDonald scored the only goal of the game, so hard sitting thete when your team score, especially against your rivals, done the same at Newcastle when Paul Wilkinson scored the only goal of the game

[TeessideTopgun]

Hopefully the Conway/Lath partnership clicks and the team start to exploit the new formation

Great write up as ever E-Man ( did the swans help)

Going 3-2 to The Mighty Boro ( heart over head)

UTB👍

[erimus74]

Hopefully the Conway/Lath partnership clicks and the team start to exploit the new formation

Great write up as ever E-Man ( did the swans help)

Going 3-2 to The Mighty Boro ( heart over head)

UTB👍

Cheers TeessideTopgun, we were stood with our backs to the lake when all of a sudden they cornered me, my wife & granddaughter snarling away I thought the mother was going to attack us, luckily I picked up the GD & made a quick sweve around a boulder, my GD then said to her nana, pop picked her up, which at the moment Im not to do, 😞

[Nosmo-King]

Great stuff as ever Erimus. One absentee from the players - George Kinnell.

Pretty forgettable player to be honest.

1-2 hoping the score will be!

Also Dickie Rooks missing!!!!

[TeessideTopgun]

Great stuff as ever Erimus. One absentee from the players - George Kinnell.

Pretty forgettable player to be honest.

1-2 hoping the score will be!

Also Dickie Rooks missing!!!!

But we did pay 40000 for Kinnell

[erimus74]

Great stuff as ever Erimus. One absentee from the players - George Kinnell.

Pretty forgettable player to be honest.

1-2 hoping the score will be!

Also Dickie Rooks missing!!!!

Cheers for those two players Nosmo-king, cracking shouts
The holgate sang, 25 thousand for Kinnell,🎶

[Nosmo-King]

Great stuff as ever Erimus. One absentee from the players - George Kinnell.

Pretty forgettable player to be honest.

1-2 hoping the score will be!

Also Dickie Rooks missing!!!!

Cheers for those two players Nosmo-king, cracking shouts
The holgate sang, 25 thousand for Kinnell,🎶

Another chant - I hear the sound of distant bums- over there, over there.
And fo they smell, like George Kinnell ( clean version this one!)

[erimus74]

Great stuff as ever Erimus. One absentee from the players - George Kinnell.

Pretty forgettable player to be honest.

1-2 hoping the score will be!

Also Dickie Rooks missing!!!!

Cheers for those two players Nosmo-king, cracking shouts
The holgate sang, 25 thousand for Kinnell,🎶

Another chant - I hear the sound of distant bums- over there, over there.
And fo they smell, like George Kinnell ( clean version this one!)

Not heard that one before

[Nosmo-King]

Was to the record - Distant Drums by Jim Reeves.

One for all the teenagers!!

[Redsteel (Moderator)]

1-3 Boro. They will come at us which suits our style  :carrick2:

[TerryCochranesSocks]

10-10  (not the score, the number of players left at full-time)

2-2

[Johnny Thunder]

Missed Downing off too E-man.





2-1 Sunderland.

[erimus74]

Missed Downing off too E-man.





2-1 Sunderland.

Cheers Johnny, failing miserably with players here, 3 so far, 😔

[erimus74]

[erimus74]

Enjoy

[erimus74]

We've sold our allocation of 2,239, great support again, looking forward to hearing them outsing the home fans

[Too Much Perspective]

Will Azaz have more opportunity & space against Sunderland, he was well marked against Preston & with tightly marked he couldn't find much room to spray passes about & struggled to show what he can do

I know when the other lot are down to 10 men it's like Christmas Day for a winger and all that, but if Sunderland are doubling up on anyone, it'll possibly be Jones after the way he tore through them last trip there. A return to form for him this weekend could not be better timed. 

[Clem Fandango]

0-1 to the Mighty Boro!

 

[LIDDLE_TOWERS999]

I HOPE THIS DOES NOT COME BACK TO BITE HIM ON THE ARSE....BEST SAY FUCK ALL AND JUST DO IT 🙄🙄🙄