This is the biggest artist.

[BoroRedKen]

In the world.

Proof TS is autotuned to fuck.

https://x.com/AvonandsomerRob/status/1834118810225267074

[fukyu]

Unless that's a fake track.

[spottygiraffe (Moderator)]

Like Jesus on Easter I've been resurrected 🐣

Taylor Swift is incredibly talented. There's plenty of videos of her singing without autotune and she sounds just as phenomenal as on her albums.

I couldn't even speak dancing round stage like that never mind sing.

As well as her voice, she is a fantastic songwriter, if you look past the mainstream "shake it off" and "we are never getting back together" that you hear on the radio, and listen to some of her actual music, it's incredible.

I've been listening to the same 3 songs on repeat for the past week, How Did it End? The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived, and loml. Sad as fuck songs, absolutely brilliant.

When you know the Taylor Swift lore her music is even more incredible, so many Easter eggs and inconspicuous links, stories that span across multiple songs written from different POV's of people in the story, you wouldn't notice if you weren't trying to. She's insanely clever.

I could honestly talk about Taylor Swift all day if you let me.

[spottygiraffe (Moderator)]

(PS anyone can think Taylor Swift is shite btw, I don't mind other people's opinions but that is just mine)

[newyddion]

they all sound different without all the auto tune and electronic wizardry behind them..

[Clem Fandango]

they all sound different without all the auto tune and electronic wizardry behind them..

You nearly got me.... wanker... 

[Clem Fandango]

Concerning TS backing Kamala Harris

[ZiEgE]

Taylor Swift? Taylor Shit more like.

Vacuous, soulless pop music for the NPCs who are told what they like.

See also Gaga,Perry etc

[spottygiraffe (Moderator)]

Taylor Swift? Taylor Shit more like.

Vacuous, soulless pop music for the NPCs who are told what they like.

See also Gaga,Perry etc

If her music is so soulless how is she dominating the music industry, whilst writing her own music and connecting with millions. (Don't give me a conspiracy theory as an answer though)

You can't comment if you've only heard what's in the charts. She also spans across multiple genres, country, pop, folk, indie, Americana.

Swifties are the opposite of NPC's and if you said that on Twitter you'd get roasted by a load of teenage girls.

The irony of calling people NPC's when that in itself is such an overused insult now 🐑

[fukyu]

Nowt against her but From the bits I've heard She's nothing special.Girls and gays would be her core  audience. What's NPC.?

[LIDDLE_TOWERS999]

WOULD RATHER POKE RED HOT FUCKING KNITTING NEEDLES IN ME EAR DRUMS 

[BoroRedKen]

Hmm.
Have to disagree a bit SG!

Its a "movement" not a "great musical artiste".

I have nothing against her success.
But being around bands and singers in a past life that struggle for a half decent payday and then hearing TS "vocal ability" more than once "infutiates" me.

The movement happens.

The Beatles.
The Stones.
Ed Sheeran.
Lewis Capaldi.

All singers/songwriters. The Beatles were probably the 1st ever "influencers".
But at least their singing voices matched their talents.

Bernie Taupin.
Could not sing for toffee. But wrote some of Elton Johns biggest hits. Just got EJ to sing them.

I dont dispute TS's writing ability. Just her singing.

But then again people would not pay 100's for a ticket to a concert by me so hey what do i know?
😅👍

[Geoff_B]

Got to totally disagree here Ken. Taylor swift is a fantastic singer/songwriter/performer.

The video you have posted is quite clearly a pro trump and now massive anti swift profile along with million others.

You simply just have to watch her sing and play acoustic, which leaves no where to hide, not some video with pre loaded agendas.

There's a really good documentary she made whixh shows her writing, the method behind the song and singing each song acoustic from a album she writes whilst in a holiday cottage (memory is abit fuzzy)

Also forgetting she isn't a manufactured pop artist she's a country singer who has literally worked her way to the top.

Don't get roped in by what is literally fake news.

[ZiEgE]

You can't comment if you've only heard what's in the charts. She also spans across multiple genres, country, pop, folk, indie, Americana.

She makes pop music and variations thereof. You have no idea how the music industry works.

Swifties are the opposite of NPC's and if you said that on Twitter you'd get roasted by a load of teenage girls.

Yeah, because NPCs don't like the music the internet tells them to like. They don't like what the YouTube algorithm promotes. And they certainly don't like media friendly drones who Parrot the narrative.

The irony of calling people NPC's when that in itself is such an overused insult now 🐑

Literally, word for word what an NPC would say.

[TerryCochranesSocks]

Utterly shite.

She is yet another example of marketing over talent.
A below average singer, a shite dancer and average looking under all that slap.
Just another "sensation" that has been pushed, marketed and manipulated in order to keep people with little capacity for independent thought from actually using the small amount they have.

[LIDDLE_TOWERS999]

Utterly shite.

She is yet another example of marketing over talent.
A below average singer, a shite dancer and average looking under all that slap.
Just another "sensation" that has been pushed, marketed and manipulated in order to keep people with little capacity for independent thought from actually using the small amount they have.

I'M AFRAID TEZ HAS NAILED IT 👍💪👍

 

[BoroRedKen]

Err love ya to bits Ge-off but i think you might be part of the "TS CULT".

How can this songwriter be spoken in the same breath as Lennon/Mcartney? Taupin/John? The big Bee Gee? Joni Mitchell? Bowie?

# My ex-man brought his new girlfriend
She's like, "Oh my God!" but I'm just gonna shake
And to the fella over there with the hella good hair
Won't you come on over, baby? We can shake, shake, shake (yeah)
Yeah, oh, oh"

Yeah thats up there with..
# Yes, and how many times must a man look up
Before he can see the sky?
And how many ears must one man have
Before he can hear people cry?
Yes, and how many deaths will it take 'til he knows
That too many people have died? #

Shake it off Ge-off!
  

[BoroRedKen]

I do actually like "Shake it off". It is a guilty pleasure. Same as "Whole Again" by Atomic Kitten and "Sound of the Underground" by Girls Aloud.

Along with 1 of the greatest pop tunes ever written.

You are all singing "TIN TANG WALLA WALLA BING BANG" now and Doing air Sax!
Dont dare lie!!
 

[newyddion]

I do actually like "Shake it off". It is a guilty pleasure.

Guilty pleasure? Go on then..

[BoroRedKen]

Always got him mixed up with that Fabio dude!

HAVE IT!

[spottygiraffe (Moderator)]

Will not accept shake it off lyrics as the reason she isn't a good writer, shake it off is made to be a fun, carefree chart topper. If you want deep and meaningful I'll list some:

How did it end? :

Say it once again with feeling
How the death rattle breathing
Silenced as the soul was leaving
The deflation of our dreaming
Leaving me bereft and reeling
My beloved ghost and me
Sitting in a tree
D-Y-I-N-G

My Tears Ricochet:

We gather here, we line up, weepin' in a sunlit room
And if I'm on fire, you'll be made of ashes too
Even on my worst day, did I deserve, babe
All the hell you gave me?
'Cause I loved you, I swear I loved you
'Til my dying day
I didn't have it in myself to go with grace
And you're the hero flying around, saving face
And if I'm dead to you, why are you at the wake?
Cursing my name, wishing I stayed
Look at how my tears ricochet

Death by a thousand cuts:

Saying goodbye is death by a thousand cuts
Flashbacks waking me up
I get drunk, but it's not enough
'Cause the morning comes and you're not my baby
I look through the windows of this love
Even though we boarded them up
Chandelier's still flickering here
'Cause I can't pretend it's ok when it's not
It's death by a thousand cuts
I dress to kill my time
I take the long way home
I ask the traffic lights if it'll be all right
They say, "I don't know"
And what once was ours is no one's now
I see you everywhere
The only thing we share
Is this small town
You said it was a great love
One for the ages
But if the story's over
Why am I still writing pages?

The Beatles:

I am the eggman, (Ooh)
They are the eggmen, (Ooh)
I am the walrus,
Goo goo g' joob.

TS is a lyrical genius, she might not be for everyone, that I can accept, but she is a FANTASTIC singer and songwriter, she is absolutely DOG SHIT at dancing though.

[ZiEgE]

Fantastic singers are a dime a dozen. It's not a unique talent.

See every cabaret show in history.

You could take any TS song, take her out and replace her with any other plastic, vacuous pop sensation (Gaga, Perry, Eilish) and the end result would be identical.

Now I might give her credit for writing those songs, if she actually is writing them and doesn't have a ghost writer involved. Which most of the plastic pop princesses do.

[fukyu]

Will not accept shake it off lyrics as the reason she isn't a good writer, shake it off is made to be a fun, carefree chart topper. If you want deep and meaningful I'll list some:

How did it end? :

Say it once again with feeling
How the death rattle breathing
Silenced as the soul was leaving
The deflation of our dreaming
Leaving me bereft and reeling
My beloved ghost and me
Sitting in a tree
D-Y-I-N-G

My Tears Ricochet:

We gather here, we line up, weepin' in a sunlit room
And if I'm on fire, you'll be made of ashes too
Even on my worst day, did I deserve, babe
All the hell you gave me?
'Cause I loved you, I swear I loved you
'Til my dying day
I didn't have it in myself to go with grace
And you're the hero flying around, saving face
And if I'm dead to you, why are you at the wake?
Cursing my name, wishing I stayed
Look at how my tears ricochet

Death by a thousand cuts:

Saying goodbye is death by a thousand cuts
Flashbacks waking me up
I get drunk, but it's not enough
'Cause the morning comes and you're not my baby
I look through the windows of this love
Even though we boarded them up
Chandelier's still flickering here
'Cause I can't pretend it's ok when it's not
It's death by a thousand cuts
I dress to kill my time
I take the long way home
I ask the traffic lights if it'll be all right
They say, "I don't know"
And what once was ours is no one's now
I see you everywhere
The only thing we share
Is this small town
You said it was a great love
One for the ages
But if the story's over
Why am I still writing pages?

The Beatles:

I am the eggman, (Ooh)
They are the eggmen, (Ooh)
I am the walrus,
Goo goo g' joob.

TS is a lyrical genius, she might not be for everyone, that I can accept, but she is a FANTASTIC singer and songwriter, she is absolutely DOG SHIT at dancing though.

" I ask the traffic light if it'll be all right"really.?
I am the walrus was deliberate nonsensical lyrics by Lennon, he got sick of people looking for meaning in their lyrics and wrote that as a joke.He was quoted as saying " let the fuckers work that one out"
"Jesus died for somebody's sins but not mine", there's a pointed lyric for you.

[TerryCochranesSocks]

"TS is a lyrical genius" 



She writes like a spotty spurned 16 year old bint sitting in a sixth form common room, picking their nose and scratching at their inner arms with a broken protractor.

[Clem Fandango]

I'd let her shake me off.

 

I'd play hard to get first like.  I'm not a slag,