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Started by ZiEgE, August 18, 2024, 10:06:46 PM

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ZiEgE

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyvpm1049d9o


The interesting thing about this is that while we have stopped selling arms to other nations for far less, we continue to sell arms to Israel who commit war crime after war crime.

Amd to think, some people would tell you with a straight face that Israelis don't hold power over our politicians.


LIDDLE_TOWERS999

Quote from: ZiEgE on August 18, 2024, 10:06:46 PMhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyvpm1049d9o


The interesting thing about this is that while we have stopped selling arms to other nations for far less, we continue to sell arms to Israel who commit war crime after war crime.

Amd to think, some people would tell you with a straight face that Israelis don't hold power over our politicians.




WAR CRIMES YA SAY...IT'S CALLED FIGHTING THE BULLY IN THE PLAYGROUND...

IF YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT PROPER WAR CRIMES LETS DISCUSS HAMAS YOU HEAD IN THE SAND....






DAF CUN....
GET WELL SOON STEVE G

RiversideRifle

Hamas Israel and Russia all committing war crimes
UTB

ZiEgE

Quote from: LIDDLE_TOWERS999 on August 18, 2024, 10:10:33 PM
Quote from: ZiEgE on August 18, 2024, 10:06:46 PMhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyvpm1049d9o


The interesting thing about this is that while we have stopped selling arms to other nations for far less, we continue to sell arms to Israel who commit war crime after war crime.

Amd to think, some people would tell you with a straight face that Israelis don't hold power over our politicians.




WAR CRIMES YA SAY...IT'S CALLED FIGHTING THE BULLY IN THE PLAYGROUND...

IF YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT PROPER WAR CRIMES LETS DISCUSS HAMAS YOU HEAD IN THE SAND....






DAF CUN....

You don't know what you're talking about.

I suggest you read the conclusion of the 13 ICC judges on the matter.




teamboro

You lot can't handle the truth

Listen to the real Candice Owens on X on this subject

But no one will believe her

TEESSIDER and Proud  of the area unlike some and I'm not a Racist

Ural Quntz

Quote from: teamboro on August 19, 2024, 06:38:09 AMYou lot can't handle the truth

Listen to the real Candice Owens on X on this subject

But no one will believe her



Its Candace and she's a pro trump daf cun that thinks Andrew Tate talks sense

What in that would make anybody but silly fuckers like you (maybe crocket) believe anything she says?

She is at least starting to remove her blinkers about the racist misogynist fraud Donald Duck

'Then there's Candace Owens, who has 5.4 million followers on X and who Trump previously hosted at the White House. She said on her podcast this week, "I'm just not sure who is driving the MAGA bus anymore."

Crack on daft lad

:youfuckinserious:

ZiEgE

Hang on Ural, I actually agree with you that she is a daft cunt BUT even if the messenger is an idiot if the message is true it should resonate.

Give what the ICC, the UN and various charities on the ground have said its unequivocal that Israel has committed war crimes.

When Serbs did that in the 1990s we bombed them into the stone ages and arrested the leaders and charged them with genocide.

Israel doesn't get a free pass because it's a nation of jews but we can all see that it does because of the influence it has over Western governments.

People are right to call it out and ask questions of why our military is engaged in supporting Isreal committing war crimes.
Why our politicsns refuse to take action against Israel.

They are legitimate questions.

Kippers

What's wrong with supplying Israel with weapons like ?

ZiEgE

Quote from: Kippers on August 19, 2024, 11:47:52 AMWhat's wrong with supplying Israel with weapons like ?

Because they're committing war crimes.

fukyu

Quote from: ZiEgE on August 19, 2024, 11:57:10 AM
Quote from: Kippers on August 19, 2024, 11:47:52 AMWhat's wrong with supplying Israel with weapons like ?

Because they're committing war crimes.
So are Hamas, hezzbollah and others. Israel buys arms to defend itself,on this occasion it seems over kill and a political war that is happening in Gaza but Iran is waiting in the wings..

Blott

The elephant in the room is that within some, OK not many now  saw their family starved and gassed by a Western power.


If I was a Jew I would expect my government to put Jews first.

Poolielad

Hand over the hostages, then reasonable talks can begin.....Wont happen till Hamas release these hostages... Hamas brought this on themselves, and the majority of Palestinians support what Hamas did that day!!!

Kippers

Hamas leaders operating from Qatar tells you all you need to know about them.

  They are happy to put the Gaza population at risk in the hope of escalating war in the region.
 

Ural Quntz

Oh one more thing - stop firing rockets at Israel!

ZiEgE

Quote from: fukyu on August 19, 2024, 12:02:09 PM
Quote from: ZiEgE on August 19, 2024, 11:57:10 AM
Quote from: Kippers on August 19, 2024, 11:47:52 AMWhat's wrong with supplying Israel with weapons like ?

Because they're committing war crimes.
So are Hamas, hezzbollah and others. Israel buys arms to defend itself,on this occasion it seems over kill and a political war that is happening in Gaza but Iran is waiting in the wings..

Is that how your morality works?

Because Hamas are evil cunts Israel get carte blanche to slaughter innocent women and children?

Either we uphold international law or we don't and Israel has shown time and again it has a blatant disregard for human life and the rule of international law.



ZiEgE

Quote from: Ural Quntz (Moderator) on August 19, 2024, 04:36:17 PMOh one more thing - stop firing rockets at Israel!

Quote from: Poolielad on August 19, 2024, 12:19:52 PMHand over the hostages, then reasonable talks can begin.....Wont happen till Hamas release these hostages... Hamas brought this on themselves, and the majority of Palestinians support what Hamas did that day!!!


That's the same morality as the scumbag that blew up the kids concert in Manchester or the one that did the stabbing the other week.

Because our government support the oppression of Palestinians and/or Muslims in other states we're responsible and fair game.

It's a sick and twisted world view and I would suggest you have a long think about it.

Collectively, Palestinians cannot be held accountable for the action of Hamas anymore than the Irish could be held accountable for the actions of the IRA.




Kippers

Quote from: ZiEgE on August 19, 2024, 05:07:14 PM
Quote from: Ural Quntz (Moderator) on August 19, 2024, 04:36:17 PMOh one more thing - stop firing rockets at Israel!

Quote from: Poolielad on August 19, 2024, 12:19:52 PMHand over the hostages, then reasonable talks can begin.....Wont happen till Hamas release these hostages... Hamas brought this on themselves, and the majority of Palestinians support what Hamas did that day!!!


That's the same morality as the scumbag that blew up the kids concert in Manchester or the one that did the stabbing the other week.

Because our government support the oppression of Palestinians and/or Muslims in other states we're responsible and fair game.

It's a sick and twisted world view and I would suggest you have a long think about it.

Collectively, Palestinians cannot be held accountable for the action of Hamas anymore than the Irish could be held accountable for the actions of the IRA.





Eh ?

So we should stop supplying Isi with arms to prevent fucked up suicide bombers blowing up little girls ??

Fuck off



fukyu

Quote from: ZiEgE on August 19, 2024, 05:00:29 PM
Quote from: fukyu on August 19, 2024, 12:02:09 PM
Quote from: ZiEgE on August 19, 2024, 11:57:10 AM
Quote from: Kippers on August 19, 2024, 11:47:52 AMWhat's wrong with supplying Israel with weapons like ?

Because they're committing war crimes.
So are Hamas, hezzbollah and others. Israel buys arms to defend itself,on this occasion it seems over kill and a political war that is happening in Gaza but Iran is waiting in the wings..

Is that how your morality works?

Because Hamas are evil cunts Israel get carte blanche to slaughter innocent women and children?

Either we uphold international law or we don't and Israel has shown time and again it has a blatant disregard for human life and the rule of international law.



I posted that what Israel is doing in Gaza is wrong and it's being done for political reasons not just defence.Israel arms itself for defence against hostile states that would see it destroyed, 1948, six day war, Yom  kippur.There are no moral winners in this but hamas provoked this war to stop the Saudis cosying up with Israel at Irans behest. The hatred will never go away, when they run out of bullets they'll throw rocks.

Bud Wiser

Israel is our first line of defence in a very unstable part of the world.

We turn our back on them at our peril.

SAMMY AMEOBI - CAN I HAVE YOUR SHIRT PLEASE

Blott

Maybe if Hamas and it's leaders in 5 star hotels had used the money they received, mainly from the evil USA to build infrastructure and hospitals instead of tunnels this may not have happened.

Re deaths,50 pc roughly are Hamas Military, the other 50 pc I could cry for.

When if ever Iran runs Gaza, women may as well leave, gays may as well leave, the few Christians may as well leave

Poolielad

Quote from: ZiEgE on August 19, 2024, 05:07:14 PM
Quote from: Ural Quntz (Moderator) on August 19, 2024, 04:36:17 PMOh one more thing - stop firing rockets at Israel!

Quote from: Poolielad on August 19, 2024, 12:19:52 PMHand over the hostages, then reasonable talks can begin.....Wont happen till Hamas release these hostages... Hamas brought this on themselves, and the majority of Palestinians support what Hamas did that day!!!


That's the same morality as the scumbag that blew up the kids concert in Manchester or the one that did the stabbing the other week.

Because our government support the oppression of Palestinians and/or Muslims in other states we're responsible and fair game.

It's a sick and twisted world view and I would suggest you have a long think about it.

Collectively, Palestinians cannot be held accountable for the action of Hamas anymore than the Irish could be held accountable for the actions of the IRA.




Jog on you nugget......its the fucking truth you clown....What have I said what is wrong???

ZiEgE

Quote from: fukyu on August 19, 2024, 05:31:26 PM
Quote from: ZiEgE on August 19, 2024, 05:00:29 PM
Quote from: fukyu on August 19, 2024, 12:02:09 PM
Quote from: ZiEgE on August 19, 2024, 11:57:10 AM
Quote from: Kippers on August 19, 2024, 11:47:52 AMWhat's wrong with supplying Israel with weapons like ?

Because they're committing war crimes.
So are Hamas, hezzbollah and others. Israel buys arms to defend itself,on this occasion it seems over kill and a political war that is happening in Gaza but Iran is waiting in the wings..

Is that how your morality works?

Because Hamas are evil cunts Israel get carte blanche to slaughter innocent women and children?

Either we uphold international law or we don't and Israel has shown time and again it has a blatant disregard for human life and the rule of international law.



I posted that what Israel is doing in Gaza is wrong and it's being done for political reasons not just defence.Israel arms itself for defence against hostile states that would see it destroyed, 1948, six day war, Yom  kippur.There are no moral winners in this but hamas provoked this war to stop the Saudis cosying up with Israel at Irans behest. The hatred will never go away, when they run out of bullets they'll throw rocks.

I don't see your point?

Are you saying Israel has a right to commit genocide?


ZiEgE

Quote from: Poolielad on August 19, 2024, 06:35:59 PM
Quote from: ZiEgE on August 19, 2024, 05:07:14 PM
Quote from: Ural Quntz (Moderator) on August 19, 2024, 04:36:17 PMOh one more thing - stop firing rockets at Israel!

Quote from: Poolielad on August 19, 2024, 12:19:52 PMHand over the hostages, then reasonable talks can begin.....Wont happen till Hamas release these hostages... Hamas brought this on themselves, and the majority of Palestinians support what Hamas did that day!!!


That's the same morality as the scumbag that blew up the kids concert in Manchester or the one that did the stabbing the other week.

Because our government support the oppression of Palestinians and/or Muslims in other states we're responsible and fair game.

It's a sick and twisted world view and I would suggest you have a long think about it.

Collectively, Palestinians cannot be held accountable for the action of Hamas anymore than the Irish could be held accountable for the actions of the IRA.




Jog on you nugget......its the fucking truth you clown....What have I said what is wrong???

You cannot hold someone accountable for actions they didn't commit.

Let me try to explain in language you'll understand.

Once upon a time the good folk of Hartlepool hung a monkey - the RSPCA doesn't get to lock you up for animal cruelty.

You didn't hang the monkey and you are not accountable for the actions of others, even if you come from the same place.

The innocent of Palestine are not accoutable for the actions of Hamas, just like you are not accountable for hanging a monkey.




fukyu

Quote from: ZiEgE on August 19, 2024, 09:34:06 PM
Quote from: fukyu on August 19, 2024, 05:31:26 PM
Quote from: ZiEgE on August 19, 2024, 05:00:29 PM
Quote from: fukyu on August 19, 2024, 12:02:09 PM
Quote from: ZiEgE on August 19, 2024, 11:57:10 AM
Quote from: Kippers on August 19, 2024, 11:47:52 AMWhat's wrong with supplying Israel with weapons like ?

Because they're committing war crimes.
So are Hamas, hezzbollah and others. Israel buys arms to defend itself,on this occasion it seems over kill and a political war that is happening in Gaza but Iran is waiting in the wings..

Is that how your morality works?

Because Hamas are evil cunts Israel get carte blanche to slaughter innocent women and children?

Either we uphold international law or we don't and Israel has shown time and again it has a blatant disregard for human life and the rule of international law.



I posted that what Israel is doing in Gaza is wrong and it's being done for political reasons not just defence.Israel arms itself for defence against hostile states that would see it destroyed, 1948, six day war, Yom  kippur.There are no moral winners in this but hamas provoked this war to stop the Saudis cosying up with Israel at Irans behest. The hatred will never go away, when they run out of bullets they'll throw rocks.

I don't see your point?

Are you saying Israel has a right to commit genocide?


If you think that you clearly have no understanding of the problem outside of the current situation.

ZiEgE

Well, that's why I said I don't see your point.

It sounded as though you were excusing genocide.

I fully understand that the Palestinians live under an apartheid state. Where every aspect of their lives, from water to power and internet access is controlled by a hostile occupying state that indiscriminately kills women and children.

Not my conclusion you understand, but that of the international criminal court.

As I've said in this thread numerous times, we either believe in justice, fairness and the rule of international law or we don't.

Britian should not be selling arms to or offering any militarily defense of a nation  engaged in genocide.