HEY NEWWY LAD.....🙄🙄🙄

[Eastcoastred]

As you know I never liked the prick from day one

[LIDDLE_TOWERS999]

How do ya think i feel?.....

Its all about content fellas.

It dont matter who you are on here you all have the right to post/start threads as much or as little as they want.

I know it causes issues with some, Nosmo for 1 whom i wish would come back and post but that on a personal level because the bloke has given me sound advice this last year and he is a bloke i have a hell of a lot of time for personally, but the 1 thing RR is "respectful" to each other.

Yeah we fight and row. Call each other names! But show me a group of fellas that dont rally round our own when the call is sounded like RR does?

We all knew Newy.
We all knew he was a prolific poster OTR.
I the 1 thing i will say, before Rich does!, is i know flyme posters inside out. Their "styles" etc.
And Newy aint no different on here than what he was OTR is the reality.

A sarcastic, loves a wind up, sometimes funny fucker.

Just like 99.9% of the rest of us.

Morning Ken thanks for the kind words. Whilst I will still be lurking I doubt I will return to posting on a similar scale as before.

My main beef and concern is the way the dynamic on here has altered - and not in a direction that enthused me.

I don't warm to Newy at all. I dislike his MO, his attempt to take over this board with incessant posts, the disdain he appears to have when responding to those with a different view to his and am left with the overall feeling he seems to believe the board is mainly for him to dominate.

With all this in mind it has become a board that lost a key ingredient- and what I believe was a key motivator for others from OTR joining the ranks.

I realise that development of any board is reliant on increased activity - and no one can argue this has been achieved mainly through his prolific posting.

We live in a world where you won't get on with everyone. And I am proof of this being the case with Newy.

I know from private messages I am not alone. Equally it appears there's a majority on here who are able to tolerate him. Such is life and in a democracy this has to be the way. However it doesn't follow to have to agree with it.

And that is why my position is whilst looking in posting will be rarer from me.

IF YOU WANT MATE ....I CAN GO ROUND AND BREAK HIS NIMBLE FINGERS FOR YOU IF YOU WANT  👍💪💪💪👍

 :leo1:

[Hound]

How do ya think i feel?.....

Its all about content fellas.

It dont matter who you are on here you all have the right to post/start threads as much or as little as they want.

I know it causes issues with some, Nosmo for 1 whom i wish would come back and post but that on a personal level because the bloke has given me sound advice this last year and he is a bloke i have a hell of a lot of time for personally, but the 1 thing RR is "respectful" to each other.

Yeah we fight and row. Call each other names! But show me a group of fellas that dont rally round our own when the call is sounded like RR does?

We all knew Newy.
We all knew he was a prolific poster OTR.
I the 1 thing i will say, before Rich does!, is i know flyme posters inside out. Their "styles" etc.
And Newy aint no different on here than what he was OTR is the reality.

A sarcastic, loves a wind up, sometimes funny fucker.

Just like 99.9% of the rest of us.

Morning Ken thanks for the kind words. Whilst I will still be lurking I doubt I will return to posting on a similar scale as before.

My main beef and concern is the way the dynamic on here has altered - and not in a direction that enthused me.

I don't warm to Newy at all. I dislike his MO, his attempt to take over this board with incessant posts, the disdain he appears to have when responding to those with a different view to his and am left with the overall feeling he seems to believe the board is mainly for him to dominate.

With all this in mind it has become a board that lost a key ingredient- and what I believe was a key motivator for others from OTR joining the ranks.

I realise that development of any board is reliant on increased activity - and no one can argue this has been achieved mainly through his prolific posting.

We live in a world where you won't get on with everyone. And I am proof of this being the case with Newy.

I know from private messages I am not alone. Equally it appears there's a majority on here who are able to tolerate him. Such is life and in a democracy this has to be the way. However it doesn't follow to have to agree with it.

And that is why my position is whilst looking in posting will be rarer from me.

IF YOU WANT MATE ....I CAN GO ROUND AND BREAK HIS NIMBLE FINGERS FOR YOU IF YOU WANT  👍💪💪💪👍

 :leo1:

Break his toes too,
Just in case.

[Gingerpig]

How do ya think i feel?.....

Its all about content fellas.

It dont matter who you are on here you all have the right to post/start threads as much or as little as they want.

I know it causes issues with some, Nosmo for 1 whom i wish would come back and post but that on a personal level because the bloke has given me sound advice this last year and he is a bloke i have a hell of a lot of time for personally, but the 1 thing RR is "respectful" to each other.

Yeah we fight and row. Call each other names! But show me a group of fellas that dont rally round our own when the call is sounded like RR does?

We all knew Newy.
We all knew he was a prolific poster OTR.
I the 1 thing i will say, before Rich does!, is i know flyme posters inside out. Their "styles" etc.
And Newy aint no different on here than what he was OTR is the reality.

A sarcastic, loves a wind up, sometimes funny fucker.

Just like 99.9% of the rest of us.

Morning Ken thanks for the kind words. Whilst I will still be lurking I doubt I will return to posting on a similar scale as before.

My main beef and concern is the way the dynamic on here has altered - and not in a direction that enthused me.

I don't warm to Newy at all. I dislike his MO, his attempt to take over this board with incessant posts, the disdain he appears to have when responding to those with a different view to his and am left with the overall feeling he seems to believe the board is mainly for him to dominate.

With all this in mind it has become a board that lost a key ingredient- and what I believe was a key motivator for others from OTR joining the ranks.

I realise that development of any board is reliant on increased activity - and no one can argue this has been achieved mainly through his prolific posting.

We live in a world where you won't get on with everyone. And I am proof of this being the case with Newy.

I know from private messages I am not alone. Equally it appears there's a majority on here who are able to tolerate him. Such is life and in a democracy this has to be the way. However it doesn't follow to have to agree with it.

And that is why my position is whilst looking in posting will be rarer from me.

IF YOU WANT MATE ....I CAN GO ROUND AND BREAK HIS NIMBLE FINGERS FOR YOU IF YOU WANT  👍💪💪💪👍

 :leo1:

Seems only fair 

[LIDDLE_TOWERS999]

How do ya think i feel?.....

Its all about content fellas.

It dont matter who you are on here you all have the right to post/start threads as much or as little as they want.

I know it causes issues with some, Nosmo for 1 whom i wish would come back and post but that on a personal level because the bloke has given me sound advice this last year and he is a bloke i have a hell of a lot of time for personally, but the 1 thing RR is "respectful" to each other.

Yeah we fight and row. Call each other names! But show me a group of fellas that dont rally round our own when the call is sounded like RR does?

We all knew Newy.
We all knew he was a prolific poster OTR.
I the 1 thing i will say, before Rich does!, is i know flyme posters inside out. Their "styles" etc.
And Newy aint no different on here than what he was OTR is the reality.

A sarcastic, loves a wind up, sometimes funny fucker.

Just like 99.9% of the rest of us.

Morning Ken thanks for the kind words. Whilst I will still be lurking I doubt I will return to posting on a similar scale as before.

My main beef and concern is the way the dynamic on here has altered - and not in a direction that enthused me.

I don't warm to Newy at all. I dislike his MO, his attempt to take over this board with incessant posts, the disdain he appears to have when responding to those with a different view to his and am left with the overall feeling he seems to believe the board is mainly for him to dominate.

With all this in mind it has become a board that lost a key ingredient- and what I believe was a key motivator for others from OTR joining the ranks.

I realise that development of any board is reliant on increased activity - and no one can argue this has been achieved mainly through his prolific posting.

We live in a world where you won't get on with everyone. And I am proof of this being the case with Newy.

I know from private messages I am not alone. Equally it appears there's a majority on here who are able to tolerate him. Such is life and in a democracy this has to be the way. However it doesn't follow to have to agree with it.

And that is why my position is whilst looking in posting will be rarer from me.

IF YOU WANT MATE ....I CAN GO ROUND AND BREAK HIS NIMBLE FINGERS FOR YOU IF YOU WANT  👍💪💪💪👍

 :leo1:

Break his toes too,
Just in case.

    


IF HE DOESN'T TOE THE LINE I WILL 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪

[newyddion]

IF HE DOESN'T TOE THE LINE I WILL 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪
[/quote]

Gotta be the nodding dog and agree with everyone.. or else!

Sounds pretty familiar lol

[Nosmo-King]

How do ya think i feel?.....

Its all about content fellas.

It dont matter who you are on here you all have the right to post/start threads as much or as little as they want.

I know it causes issues with some, Nosmo for 1 whom i wish would come back and post but that on a personal level because the bloke has given me sound advice this last year and he is a bloke i have a hell of a lot of time for personally, but the 1 thing RR is "respectful" to each other.

Yeah we fight and row. Call each other names! But show me a group of fellas that dont rally round our own when the call is sounded like RR does?

We all knew Newy.
We all knew he was a prolific poster OTR.
I the 1 thing i will say, before Rich does!, is i know flyme posters inside out. Their "styles" etc.
And Newy aint no different on here than what he was OTR is the reality.

A sarcastic, loves a wind up, sometimes funny fucker.

Just like 99.9% of the rest of us.

Morning Ken thanks for the kind words. Whilst I will still be lurking I doubt I will return to posting on a similar scale as before.

My main beef and concern is the way the dynamic on here has altered - and not in a direction that enthused me.

I don't warm to Newy at all. I dislike his MO, his attempt to take over this board with incessant posts, the disdain he appears to have when responding to those with a different view to his and am left with the overall feeling he seems to believe the board is mainly for him to dominate.

With all this in mind it has become a board that lost a key ingredient- and what I believe was a key motivator for others from OTR joining the ranks.

I realise that development of any board is reliant on increased activity - and no one can argue this has been achieved mainly through his prolific posting.

We live in a world where you won't get on with everyone. And I am proof of this being the case with Newy.

I know from private messages I am not alone. Equally it appears there's a majority on here who are able to tolerate him. Such is life and in a democracy this has to be the way. However it doesn't follow to have to agree with it.

And that is why my position is whilst looking in posting will be rarer from me.

"seems to believe the board is mainly for him to dominate" - you're overthinking it.. you'll drive yourself round the bend thinking what people thought they might thinking they thought.

Not over thinking- just stating the bleeding obvious. Sad if you can't see this.....

[fukyu]

IF HE DOESN'T TOE THE LINE I WILL 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪

Gotta be the nodding dog and agree with everyone.. or else!

Sounds pretty familiar lol
[/quote]
Its nothing to do with opinions or following the herd, you're just an annoying cunt.

[newyddion]

How do ya think i feel?.....

Its all about content fellas.

It dont matter who you are on here you all have the right to post/start threads as much or as little as they want.

I know it causes issues with some, Nosmo for 1 whom i wish would come back and post but that on a personal level because the bloke has given me sound advice this last year and he is a bloke i have a hell of a lot of time for personally, but the 1 thing RR is "respectful" to each other.

Yeah we fight and row. Call each other names! But show me a group of fellas that dont rally round our own when the call is sounded like RR does?

We all knew Newy.
We all knew he was a prolific poster OTR.
I the 1 thing i will say, before Rich does!, is i know flyme posters inside out. Their "styles" etc.
And Newy aint no different on here than what he was OTR is the reality.

A sarcastic, loves a wind up, sometimes funny fucker.

Just like 99.9% of the rest of us.

Morning Ken thanks for the kind words. Whilst I will still be lurking I doubt I will return to posting on a similar scale as before.

My main beef and concern is the way the dynamic on here has altered - and not in a direction that enthused me.

I don't warm to Newy at all. I dislike his MO, his attempt to take over this board with incessant posts, the disdain he appears to have when responding to those with a different view to his and am left with the overall feeling he seems to believe the board is mainly for him to dominate.

With all this in mind it has become a board that lost a key ingredient- and what I believe was a key motivator for others from OTR joining the ranks.

I realise that development of any board is reliant on increased activity - and no one can argue this has been achieved mainly through his prolific posting.

We live in a world where you won't get on with everyone. And I am proof of this being the case with Newy.

I know from private messages I am not alone. Equally it appears there's a majority on here who are able to tolerate him. Such is life and in a democracy this has to be the way. However it doesn't follow to have to agree with it.

And that is why my position is whilst looking in posting will be rarer from me.

"seems to believe the board is mainly for him to dominate" - you're overthinking it.. you'll drive yourself round the bend thinking what people thought they might thinking they thought.

Not over thinking- just stating the bleeding obvious. Sad if you can't see this.....

It's sad if you think I believe the board is for me to dominate.. same with the comment about my heart being somewhere else.

I clearly don't take 'the boards' as seriously you and a few others.

If folks cannot bear me having a different viewpoint then as I've said before I'm happy just to stop posting. Don't want folks missing out on something that is important to them.

[LIDDLE_TOWERS999]

IF HE DOESN'T TOE THE LINE I WILL 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪

Gotta be the nodding dog and agree with everyone.. or else!

Sounds pretty familiar lol
[/quote]


NO....WE ARE NOT LIKE OTR...YOU ARE ALLOWED AN OPINION 👍😁👍

BUT SMOTHERING WE DON'T DO....

YOU DO KNOW SOME MESSAGE BOARDS ONLY ALLOW PEOPLE SO MANY POSTS A DAY 👍

IT'S CALLED RATIONING....BUT IF YA CONTENT IS GOOD ON HERE THERE'S NO PROBLEM...JUST USE YA NOGGIN KIDDA 👍💪👍

THERE'S AN OLD SAYING....NO ONE LIKES A BORE OR A POMPOUS PRICK....STEP UP TO THE PLATE 👍

[newyddion]

IF HE DOESN'T TOE THE LINE I WILL 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪

Gotta be the nodding dog and agree with everyone.. or else!

Sounds pretty familiar lol

Its nothing to do with opinions or following the herd, you're just an annoying cunt.
[/quote]

I respect Eastcoastred for being straight up and I do feel a bit bad for Nosmo..

[BoroRedKen]

I respect your opinions Nosmo.

You can only do what you feel is best and i dont have a problem with that at all Nosmo.

Redroar is supposed to be different to the others. The more members we have the more personality clashes there will be thats inevitable.

But as long as you are still about Nosmo thats good enough for me.

I not ashamed to say it by i love all you lads. You have all been the same towards me with your support and help.

Transparency is me and Newy spoke a few times before he joined. I wanted to make sure his "intentions" towards RR were genuine and as of yet Newy has been exactly like he said he would be.

But to reiterate i respect any decisions by any member with what they "feel" about posting etc.
👍

[Nosmo-King]

IF HE DOESN'T TOE THE LINE I WILL 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪

Gotta be the nodding dog and agree with everyone.. or else!

Sounds pretty familiar lol

Its nothing to do with opinions or following the herd, you're just an annoying cunt.

I respect Eastcoastred for being straight up and I do feel a bit bad for Nosmo..
[/quote]

Of course you do! Nothing like a bit of character assassination.........

[fukyu]

As you know I never liked the prick from day one

Can I put you down as undecided.

[Nosmo-King]

I respect your opinions Nosmo.

You can only do what you feel is best and i dont have a problem with that at all Nosmo.

Redroar is supposed to be different to the others. The more members we have the more personality clashes there will be thats inevitable.

But as long as you are still about Nosmo thats good enough for me.

I not ashamed to say it by i love all you lads. You have all been the same towards me with your support and help.

Transparency is me and Newy spoke a few times before he joined. I wanted to make sure his "intentions" towards RR were genuine and as of yet Newy has been exactly like he said he would be.

But to reiterate i respect any decisions by any member with what they "feel" about posting etc.
👍

Ken, bottom line is it is your board . I have little doubt traffic has gone up enormously. Something I am genuinely delighted about for you.

However the question I would raise is at what cost? I have mentioned the changing dynamic on the board.

Presumably Newy shared with you his desire to be the dominant poster on here? That he wasn't arrogant? That he would fail to accept any advice no matter if this was offered with the best intentions? That he would intimate he was always right in every opinion he had?

Believe me I am not a "one off" as he appears to piss off other posters to varying degrees.

[newyddion]

IF HE DOESN'T TOE THE LINE I WILL 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪

Gotta be the nodding dog and agree with everyone.. or else!

Sounds pretty familiar lol

Its nothing to do with opinions or following the herd, you're just an annoying cunt.

I respect Eastcoastred for being straight up and I do feel a bit bad for Nosmo..

Of course you do! Nothing like a bit of character assassination.........
[/quote]

character assassination?!?!

[newyddion]

I respect your opinions Nosmo.

You can only do what you feel is best and i dont have a problem with that at all Nosmo.

Redroar is supposed to be different to the others. The more members we have the more personality clashes there will be thats inevitable.

But as long as you are still about Nosmo thats good enough for me.

I not ashamed to say it by i love all you lads. You have all been the same towards me with your support and help.

Transparency is me and Newy spoke a few times before he joined. I wanted to make sure his "intentions" towards RR were genuine and as of yet Newy has been exactly like he said he would be.

But to reiterate i respect any decisions by any member with what they "feel" about posting etc.
👍

Ken, bottom line is it is your board . I have little doubt traffic has gone up enormously. Something I am genuinely delighted about for you.

However the question I would raise is at what cost? I have mentioned the changing dynamic on the board.

Presumably Newy shared with you his desire to be the dominant poster on here? That he wasn't arrogant? That he would fail to accept any advice no matter if this was offered with the best intentions? That he would intimate he was always right in every opinion he had?

Believe me I am not a "one off" as he appears to piss off other posters to varying degrees.

Truth is.. full disclosure..

[Nosmo-King]

I respect your opinions Nosmo.

You can only do what you feel is best and i dont have a problem with that at all Nosmo.

Redroar is supposed to be different to the others. The more members we have the more personality clashes there will be thats inevitable.

But as long as you are still about Nosmo thats good enough for me.

I not ashamed to say it by i love all you lads. You have all been the same towards me with your support and help.

Transparency is me and Newy spoke a few times before he joined. I wanted to make sure his "intentions" towards RR were genuine and as of yet Newy has been exactly like he said he would be.

But to reiterate i respect any decisions by any member with what they "feel" about posting etc.
👍

Ken, bottom line is it is your board . I have little doubt traffic has gone up enormously. Something I am genuinely delighted about for you.

However the question I would raise is at what cost? I have mentioned the changing dynamic on the board.

Presumably Newy shared with you his desire to be the dominant poster on here? That he wasn't arrogant? That he would fail to accept any advice no matter if this was offered with the best intentions? That he would intimate he was always right in every opinion he had?

Believe me I am not a "one off" as he appears to piss off other posters to varying degrees.

Truth is.. full disclosure..

Or living in a deluded world.........

[LIDDLE_TOWERS999]

I respect your opinions Nosmo.

You can only do what you feel is best and i dont have a problem with that at all Nosmo.

Redroar is supposed to be different to the others. The more members we have the more personality clashes there will be thats inevitable.

But as long as you are still about Nosmo thats good enough for me.

I not ashamed to say it by i love all you lads. You have all been the same towards me with your support and help.

Transparency is me and Newy spoke a few times before he joined. I wanted to make sure his "intentions" towards RR were genuine and as of yet Newy has been exactly like he said he would be.

But to reiterate i respect any decisions by any member with what they "feel" about posting etc.
👍

Ken, bottom line is it is your board . I have little doubt traffic has gone up enormously. Something I am genuinely delighted about for you.

However the question I would raise is at what cost? I have mentioned the changing dynamic on the board.

Presumably Newy shared with you his desire to be the dominant poster on here? That he wasn't arrogant? That he would fail to accept any advice no matter if this was offered with the best intentions? That he would intimate he was always right in every opinion he had?

Believe me I am not a "one off" as he appears to piss off other posters to varying degrees.

HE WILL NEVER BE THE DOMINANT POSTER ON ERE MY MATE I CAN ASSURE YOU OF THAT 👍😁😁😁👍💪💪💪

I HAVE BEEN KING 🤴  OF THE MESSAGE BOARDS FOR 40 YEARS         


🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[Nosmo-King]

I respect your opinions Nosmo.

You can only do what you feel is best and i dont have a problem with that at all Nosmo.

Redroar is supposed to be different to the others. The more members we have the more personality clashes there will be thats inevitable.

But as long as you are still about Nosmo thats good enough for me.

I not ashamed to say it by i love all you lads. You have all been the same towards me with your support and help.

Transparency is me and Newy spoke a few times before he joined. I wanted to make sure his "intentions" towards RR were genuine and as of yet Newy has been exactly like he said he would be.

But to reiterate i respect any decisions by any member with what they "feel" about posting etc.
👍

Ken, bottom line is it is your board . I have little doubt traffic has gone up enormously. Something I am genuinely delighted about for you.

However the question I would raise is at what cost? I have mentioned the changing dynamic on the board.

Presumably Newy shared with you his desire to be the dominant poster on here? That he wasn't arrogant? That he would fail to accept any advice no matter if this was offered with the best intentions? That he would intimate he was always right in every opinion he had?

Believe me I am not a "one off" as he appears to piss off other posters to varying degrees.

HE WILL NEVER BE THE DOMINANT POSTER ON ERE MY MATE I CAN ASSURE YOU OF THAT 👍😁😁😁👍💪💪💪

I HAVE BEEN KING 🤴  OF THE MESSAGE BOARDS FOR 40 YEARS         


🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Over 1300 posts from him - and he's only been around for a short while! Lids, I've no doubt he will continue to chase you..........

[BoroRedKen]

Its not my board Nosmo.

Otherwise we would not have these convos and i would do just what i want (sound familiar?).
But i would rather "have it all out there" then it just festering away.

It may appear im siding with Newy but that is not the case. As you all know i like to be honest and i cannot stand "pile ons" or "bullying" (not that it is happening now!).

Why did you flyme lads join here?

I am wrong to think it was because you went against the main tropes of OTR? Is it because you were all fed up with with no difference being tolerated? Is it because you all decided to find out for yourselves if what i preach is what i do?
Was it because you all realised you can have different opinions but on RR you can and will air them without the usual shite you all used to get OTR?.

I could take a leaf out of Nichols book and play the i dont have time to listen bollocks but i do listen and want people to air grievances.

But nothing changes the fact that i respect any members right to decide if they want to post or not.
The only thing i ask is they still stick around if if they only read the place.

And on a personal level Nosmo i want people like you around even if its in "spirit". I got through the darkest time of my life with people like you help, support and advice.
That to me goes above and beyond the needs of RR on a personal level.

[BoroRedKen]

And lets get 1 thing clear.

Im the daddy of threads! Double my nearest competitor!

I have just looked at the stats and its me that should be getting it!

Jesus i need a hobby!

  

[Nosmo-King]

Its not my board Nosmo.

Otherwise we would not have these convos and i would do just what i want (sound familiar?).
But i would rather "have it all out there" then it just festering away.

It may appear im siding with Newy but that is not the case. As you all know i like to be honest and i cannot stand "pile ons" or "bullying" (not that it is happening now!).

Why did you flyme lads join here?

I am wrong to think it was because you went against the main tropes of OTR? Is it because you were all fed up with with no difference being tolerated? Is it because you all decided to find out for yourselves if what i preach is what i do?
Was it because you all realised you can have different opinions but on RR you can and will air them without the usual shite you all used to get OTR?.

I could take a leaf out of Nichols book and play the i dont have time to listen bollocks but i do listen and want people to air grievances.

But nothing changes the fact that i respect any members right to decide if they want to post or not.
The only thing i ask is they still stick around if if they only read the place.

And on a personal level Nosmo i want people like you around even if its in "spirit". I got through the darkest time of my life with people like you help, support and advice.
That to me goes above and beyond the needs of RR on a personal level.

Ken, one of your abiding qualities is you're nothing like Nichols - or Small for that matter.

I like many others on this board showed the deepest sympathy over your tragic loss of Carmen. And if my words and experience were a comfort I am delighted to have helped in some little way.

My position which is 100% clear is I don't like it when one poster really feels the need and desire to dominate. What is even worse is their failure to recognise and acknowledge this.

As said, I dislike this character, his MO, and varying characteristics he shows.

That's me- and I have little doubt others share the same sentiments.

[BoroRedKen]

No problem from me Nosmo.

 

[fukyu]

He'd be alright if he stopped trying to be a smart arse all the time,we can all google, cut n paste wiki and put links up. No one does (apart from crocket and ural in their spetznaz war. ) because it's not flyme,no one try's to out do each other,it's just blokes posting shit and passing the time.