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newyddion

Quote from: LIDDLE_TOWERS999 on June 23, 2024, 11:58:56 AM
Quote from: newyddion on June 23, 2024, 10:02:06 AM
Quote from: Redsteel (Moderator) on June 23, 2024, 09:56:53 AMSouthgate is an FA yes man with no bollocks.

Leaves Grealish/Maddison out for Eze/Wharton.

Sets his team out like we are the underdogs, so negative, must not concede at all costs.

Plays for a 1-0 win, never goes for jugular when on top.

Is more woke than a blue haired tranny.

No plan B because he only knows plan A.

Someone mentioned that he's done better than the previous golden era, with Beckham, Gerrard n co. That was a good bunch of players no doubt, but when you look at the other teams around that same time, they were of a much higher caliber than what they are now. On paper, France is the only team I would say is marginally better than we are imo.

The FA never learn, and we will never win fuck all until we get football people running the show at the top. Southgate has lost the dressing room for me, and I think Grealish, not directly, has no respect for him, and it's probably shown when they all initially met up.

To summarise, I have no doubt we will beat Slovenia to go through to the last 16, but we ain't going past the quarter's that is for sure. First ranked team we play we are out. Half of me will be pissed off but the other half will be delighted to see the back of Southgate as England Manager. Get Eddie Howe in and we may go places, but I have a shit feeling it's going to be Graham Potter, another yes man who's done fuck all.

I can't get my head around the woke thing tbh.. no idea what it means at all.


YOU'LL BE NEEDING  2 NEW KNEES SOON...THE AMOUT OF KNEELING YOU DO ON HERE  🙄🙄🙄

The taking the knee thing was an American thing.. it was a bit like the ice bucket challenge for me. Lost its meaning when taken outside of the US.

The Nazi salutes and monkey noises from the Bulgarian fans at the 2020 qualifier would have had me taking the team off.. would that have been the 'woke' thing to do? Gareth Southgate certainly didn't bother.

Seems to be a fair bit of controversy surrounding the Dutch fans blacking up and dressing like Ruud Gullit.. a Dutch legend. Calls of racism from a fair few white football fans seemed to be gathering pace until Gullit said himself that he concidered it an honor and took in in the manner it was intended. How else can a white fan pay tribute by wanting to look like their hero?

I got accused of 'digital blackface' a while back for using a gif that showed Michael Jordan performing a slam dunk! The greatest basketball player that has ever lived! No better way to depict the best ever slam dunk. I guess that was 'woke' lots of folks wanting to create division and set about some sort of cancelling in the name of a made up social justice.

Cultural appropriation is another one of those issues for me.. different cultures unable to share and celebrate together.

Anyway.. woke? What is it to you?
Who am I kneeling to? What am I apparently kneeling for?

newyddion

Quote from: Ural Quntz (Moderator) on June 23, 2024, 12:12:05 PM
Quote from: newyddion on June 23, 2024, 10:02:06 AM
Quote from: Redsteel (Moderator) on June 23, 2024, 09:56:53 AMSouthgate is an FA yes man with no bollocks.

Leaves Grealish/Maddison out for Eze/Wharton.

Sets his team out like we are the underdogs, so negative, must not concede at all costs.

Plays for a 1-0 win, never goes for jugular when on top.

Is more woke than a blue haired tranny.

No plan B because he only knows plan A.

Someone mentioned that he's done better than the previous golden era, with Beckham, Gerrard n co. That was a good bunch of players no doubt, but when you look at the other teams around that same time, they were of a much higher caliber than what they are now. On paper, France is the only team I would say is marginally better than we are imo.

The FA never learn, and we will never win fuck all until we get football people running the show at the top. Southgate has lost the dressing room for me, and I think Grealish, not directly, has no respect for him, and it's probably shown when they all initially met up.

To summarise, I have no doubt we will beat Slovenia to go through to the last 16, but we ain't going past the quarter's that is for sure. First ranked team we play we are out. Half of me will be pissed off but the other half will be delighted to see the back of Southgate as England Manager. Get Eddie Howe in and we may go places, but I have a shit feeling it's going to be Graham Potter, another yes man who's done fuck all.

I can't get my head around the woke thing tbh.. no idea what it means at all.

Well you wouldn't would you....

 :unbelievable:

It alright saying that! But what are we talking about? It can't just be a coverall for everything! Southgate and his 'woke' unbeaten progression through the Euros?

No point being backwards in coming forwards.. genuinely want to know what the crack is.

There'd be a big pile on OTR and idiotic claims made against me if I mentioned the very same.

Ural Quntz

Newy put simply its being a snidey cunt

Anyone from Boro understands that perfectly

newyddion

Quote from: Ural Quntz (Moderator) on June 23, 2024, 12:24:56 PMNewy put simply its being a snidey cunt

Anyone from Boro understands that perfectly

So it's just a load of shite then.. just aimed at anything. It means fuck all? Or because I've asked I get my boro passport taken off me?

Ural Quntz

Quote from: newyddion on June 23, 2024, 12:31:04 PM
Quote from: Ural Quntz (Moderator) on June 23, 2024, 12:24:56 PMNewy put simply its being a snidey cunt

Anyone from Boro understands that perfectly

So it's just a load of shite then.. just aimed at anything. It means fuck all? Or because I've asked I get my boro passport taken off me?

Boro passport? WTF is that?

Is it like my Gold Card?

newyddion

Quote from: Ural Quntz (Moderator) on June 23, 2024, 12:33:21 PM
Quote from: newyddion on June 23, 2024, 12:31:04 PM
Quote from: Ural Quntz (Moderator) on June 23, 2024, 12:24:56 PMNewy put simply its being a snidey cunt

Anyone from Boro understands that perfectly

So it's just a load of shite then.. just aimed at anything. It means fuck all? Or because I've asked I get my boro passport taken off me?

Boro passport? WTF is that?

Is it like my Gold Card?

It's not held in such high regard!

Ural Quntz

Quote from: newyddion on June 23, 2024, 12:38:26 PM
Quote from: Ural Quntz (Moderator) on June 23, 2024, 12:33:21 PM
Quote from: newyddion on June 23, 2024, 12:31:04 PM
Quote from: Ural Quntz (Moderator) on June 23, 2024, 12:24:56 PMNewy put simply its being a snidey cunt

Anyone from Boro understands that perfectly

So it's just a load of shite then.. just aimed at anything. It means fuck all? Or because I've asked I get my boro passport taken off me?

Boro passport? WTF is that?

Is it like my Gold Card?

It's not held in such high regard!

Should think not but what exactly is it?

newyddion

Quote from: Ural Quntz (Moderator) on June 23, 2024, 12:42:09 PM
Quote from: newyddion on June 23, 2024, 12:38:26 PM
Quote from: Ural Quntz (Moderator) on June 23, 2024, 12:33:21 PM
Quote from: newyddion on June 23, 2024, 12:31:04 PM
Quote from: Ural Quntz (Moderator) on June 23, 2024, 12:24:56 PMNewy put simply its being a snidey cunt

Anyone from Boro understands that perfectly

So it's just a load of shite then.. just aimed at anything. It means fuck all? Or because I've asked I get my boro passport taken off me?

Boro passport? WTF is that?

Is it like my Gold Card?

It's not held in such high regard!

Should think not but what exactly is it?


'Anyone from boro would now that' - suggests I'm not from boro cos I don't know what this woke stuff exactly means.

Ural Quntz

Quote from: newyddion on June 23, 2024, 12:45:28 PM
Quote from: Ural Quntz (Moderator) on June 23, 2024, 12:42:09 PM
Quote from: newyddion on June 23, 2024, 12:38:26 PM
Quote from: Ural Quntz (Moderator) on June 23, 2024, 12:33:21 PM
Quote from: newyddion on June 23, 2024, 12:31:04 PM
Quote from: Ural Quntz (Moderator) on June 23, 2024, 12:24:56 PMNewy put simply its being a snidey cunt

Anyone from Boro understands that perfectly

So it's just a load of shite then.. just aimed at anything. It means fuck all? Or because I've asked I get my boro passport taken off me?

Boro passport? WTF is that?

Is it like my Gold Card?

It's not held in such high regard!

Should think not but what exactly is it?


'Anyone from boro would now that' - suggests I'm not from boro cos I don't know what this woke stuff exactly means.

So a boro passport is simply a figment of your low self esteem?

Fine


newyddion

Quote from: Ural Quntz (Moderator) on June 23, 2024, 12:49:00 PM
Quote from: newyddion on June 23, 2024, 12:45:28 PM
Quote from: Ural Quntz (Moderator) on June 23, 2024, 12:42:09 PM
Quote from: newyddion on June 23, 2024, 12:38:26 PM
Quote from: Ural Quntz (Moderator) on June 23, 2024, 12:33:21 PM
Quote from: newyddion on June 23, 2024, 12:31:04 PM
Quote from: Ural Quntz (Moderator) on June 23, 2024, 12:24:56 PMNewy put simply its being a snidey cunt

Anyone from Boro understands that perfectly

So it's just a load of shite then.. just aimed at anything. It means fuck all? Or because I've asked I get my boro passport taken off me?

Boro passport? WTF is that?

Is it like my Gold Card?

It's not held in such high regard!

Should think not but what exactly is it?


'Anyone from boro would now that' - suggests I'm not from boro cos I don't know what this woke stuff exactly means.

So a boro passport is simply a figment of your low self esteem?

Fine



Haha.. you know what I meant.

Low self esteem? Nah

fukyu

Quote from: newyddion on June 23, 2024, 12:31:04 PM
Quote from: Ural Quntz (Moderator) on June 23, 2024, 12:24:56 PMNewy put simply its being a snidey cunt

Anyone from Boro understands that perfectly

So it's just a load of shite then.. just aimed at anything. It means fuck all? Or because I've asked I get my boro passport taken off me?
There's an element of trolling about you,some posts don't need a reply it's just a throwaway comment,you come on with a contrary and long winded diatribe in response questioning the post and arguing against it.If someone came on and said it was raining you'd just say the sun wasn't you're like a pound shop smalltown.

newyddion

Quote from: fukyu on June 23, 2024, 03:15:38 PM
Quote from: newyddion on June 23, 2024, 12:31:04 PM
Quote from: Ural Quntz (Moderator) on June 23, 2024, 12:24:56 PMNewy put simply its being a snidey cunt

Anyone from Boro understands that perfectly

So it's just a load of shite then.. just aimed at anything. It means fuck all? Or because I've asked I get my boro passport taken off me?
There's an element of trolling about you,some posts don't need a reply it's just a throwaway comment,you come on with a contrary and long winded diatribe in response questioning the post and arguing against it.If someone came on and said it was raining you'd just say the sun wasn't you're like a pound shop smalltown.

Nah, not at all.

LIDDLE_TOWERS999

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 :leo:  :mick:  :rudi:  :sid:  :supremeleader:  :unbelievable:  :wry:
GET WELL SOON STEVE G

newyddion

Quote from: LIDDLE_TOWERS999 on June 24, 2024, 10:16:26 AMFB-IMG-1719220367498" border="0


 :leo:  :mick:  :rudi:  :sid:  :supremeleader:  :unbelievable:  :wry:

Southgate being the opposite of woke.. slept

LIDDLE_TOWERS999

Quote from: newyddion on June 24, 2024, 10:30:44 AM
Quote from: LIDDLE_TOWERS999 on June 24, 2024, 10:16:26 AMFB-IMG-1719220367498" border="0


 :leo:  :mick:  :rudi:  :sid:  :supremeleader:  :unbelievable:  :wry:

Southgate being the opposite of woke.. slept


COME ON NEWWY.... :rudi:


LIGHTEN UP A BIT KIDDA  :rudi2:


AND I DON'T MEAN THAT IN A RACIST WAY  😁😁😁


IT COSTS FUCK ALL TO SMILE YA KNOW 🙄🙄🙄

EVEN THOUGH FRED OTR  :westy:

IS CHARGING THEM AN ARM💪 AND A LEG 🦵 FOR IT  :rav:
GET WELL SOON STEVE G

newyddion

Quote from: LIDDLE_TOWERS999 on June 24, 2024, 11:02:44 AM
Quote from: newyddion on June 24, 2024, 10:30:44 AM
Quote from: LIDDLE_TOWERS999 on June 24, 2024, 10:16:26 AMFB-IMG-1719220367498" border="0


 :leo:  :mick:  :rudi:  :sid:  :supremeleader:  :unbelievable:  :wry:

Southgate being the opposite of woke.. slept


COME ON NEWWY.... :rudi:


LIGHTEN UP A BIT KIDDA  :rudi2:


AND I DON'T MEAN THAT IN A RACIST WAY  😁😁😁


IT COSTS FUCK ALL TO SMILE YA KNOW 🙄🙄🙄

EVEN THOUGH FRED OTR  :westy:

IS CHARGING THEM AN ARM💪 AND A LEG 🦵 FOR IT  :rav:

Snoozed?

John Trebor

Southgate (or any other England manager) can be as 'woke' as he wants if he wins a trophy. I couldn't care less about what he believes in, who he votes for or whatever.
But he should be woke enough to stop playing Terence Trent Darby in midfield.

newyddion

Quote from: John Trebor on June 24, 2024, 11:22:17 AMSouthgate (or any other England manager) can be as 'woke' as he wants if he wins a trophy. I couldn't care less about what he believes in, who he votes for or whatever.
But he should be woke enough to stop playing Terence Trent Darby in midfield.

Loves a full back in midfield does our Gareth! The Kaleidoscope Formation in full effect!

A team full of right backs is the ultimate goal I think..


LIDDLE_TOWERS999

Quote from: John Trebor on June 24, 2024, 11:22:17 AMSouthgate (or any other England manager) can be as 'woke' as he wants if he wins a trophy. I couldn't care less about what he believes in, who he votes for or whatever.
But he should be woke enough to stop playing Terence Trent Darby in midfield.

YES HE'S FUCKING SHIT AT PENNA'S   :rudi:  :sid:  :ray:  :wry:
GET WELL SOON STEVE G

John Trebor

Quote from: erimus74 on June 23, 2024, 11:36:09 AMRemember Spain 1982 & our world cup song & we're going to win it this time
Keegan & Brooking carrying knocks going into the world cup
They shared a room. Keegan had a bad back, Brooking a groin strain 👀

Anyway, they both came on as subs together against Spain with the hopes of the nation on their shoulders. We needed a win, one goal would do it.
Give Keegan one chance, just one chance.....there it is, his chance! Shit, the daft get missed.


erimus74

Quote from: John Trebor on June 24, 2024, 10:48:38 PM
Quote from: erimus74 on June 23, 2024, 11:36:09 AMRemember Spain 1982 & our world cup song & we're going to win it this time
Keegan & Brooking carrying knocks going into the world cup
They shared a room. Keegan had a bad back, Brooking a groin strain 👀

Anyway, they both came on as subs together against Spain with the hopes of the nation on their shoulders. We needed a win, one goal would do it.
Give Keegan one chance, just one chance.....there it is, his chance! Shit, the daft get missed.



Yes remember that game, big build up & just neeeded to win to go through & we drew

LIDDLE_TOWERS999

AND WE HAVE QUALIFIED BEFORE KICKING A BALL TONIGHT 🤣🤣🤣

THE JOCKS ARE GUTTED  :leo:

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 :ray:
GET WELL SOON STEVE G

Westlane_rightwinger

Southgate was our chairman's cheap option. He took us down.

He was a defensive midfielder turned defender. He has a defensive mindset. He simply doesn't have the tactical awareness nor gravitas to manage the squad.

We often struggle in competitions as we've really only ever had Gazza who could hang on to the ball when we were under pressure. Grealish is the closest we've had and while he does not have the same skill set he is very good at winning free kicks which would give us an out. Really don't think Gareth knows best. Gordon may well be the future but he remains untested at international level.

newyddion

Quote from: Westlane_rightwinger on June 25, 2024, 11:54:17 AMSouthgate was our chairman's cheap option. He took us down.

He was a defensive midfielder turned defender. He has a defensive mindset. He simply doesn't have the tactical awareness nor gravitas to manage the squad.

We often struggle in competitions as we've really only ever had Gazza who could hang on to the ball when we were under pressure. Grealish is the closest we've had and while he does not have the same skill set he is very good at winning free kicks which would give us an out. Really don't think Gareth knows best. Gordon may well be the future but he remains untested at international level.

Southgate was apparently the big driving force behind our European victories.. McClaren seemingly more concerned with his next step.. either to Newcastle or England.

Held in high regard in the dressing room he kept us in the premier league despite a huge downturn in investment.. our foray into Europe cost us a fortune and our subsequent recruitment was massively below par. The final killer was when the banks pulled the plug in the January transfer window. The sale of Downing to Spurs was to be used to reinvest into the squad and I 100% believe would have been enough to keep us up. (Matic and Watson)

Southgate is a fantastic manager imo.. Mendieta was hard done too imo.. but again this was down to financial issues.

We had a go at something different and Southgate did really well in the circumstances. Strachan was a dreadful appointment and nearly finished us.

Mowbray saved the day on that one.

Similar to Monk/Pulis where Warnock dug us out of a hole. Woodgate played his part but think he was let down by a lack of an experienced assistant.