Another stabbing murder in London

[BoroRedKen]

Fascinating stuff. 1 of my children attended a place in the bottom of Gtown.

I still dont think the youth club stuff would work if im honest.

When i said hands on what you did NC is what i meant (not strangling kids!).
I believe in the education aspect.
As a knife crime victim i have a little understanding of the crime on a "victims" level.

It was an horiffic incident. I have no problem saying i fought for my life. That was my fear throughout.
I was very lucky. A security guard found me out for the count. I see my scars everyday NC. I still shake when i think about that night.

We might not agree on much over time but thank you for being part of a solution and not a part of the problem through education.

Told you i had nothing but respect for you fella! 👍

[fukyu]

Before retiring I headed up a behaviour unit in a school and we carried out a lot of work on knife crime.  The lads would talk openly about carrying a knife or wanting to stab someone up because they had upset them.  A lot of it was talk but one lad's comments stuck with me.  His reasoning for carrying a knife was "You've got to use a knife before they use it on you".

Before that, I used to work for Connexions with young offenders and their families and would put a lot of interventions in place to prevent them from re-offending.  It is these grass root programmes that work in communities that help deter young people going off the rails.

All these services, along with the youth service have gone due to years of Tory cuts and there is not the support for our young people who need it.  These cuts also extend into the areas of mental health support and addiction, which tend to drive knife crime.

It starts in the home,I grew up in impoverished circumstances ( like lots of working class kids) and  never needed a youth service to tell me not to carry a knife, it's a relatively recent thing so where did it come from?.

[BoroRedKen]

And it hurt more than getting shot did.
And the scars are a million times worse.
😪

[Hound]

Carrying knives is a relatively recent thing??

[BoroRedKen]

I was just going to say the same thing Hound.
Mine happened nearly 25year ago.

[Norman_Conquest]

Before retiring I headed up a behaviour unit in a school and we carried out a lot of work on knife crime.  The lads would talk openly about carrying a knife or wanting to stab someone up because they had upset them.  A lot of it was talk but one lad's comments stuck with me.  His reasoning for carrying a knife was "You've got to use a knife before they use it on you".

Before that, I used to work for Connexions with young offenders and their families and would put a lot of interventions in place to prevent them from re-offending.  It is these grass root programmes that work in communities that help deter young people going off the rails.

All these services, along with the youth service have gone due to years of Tory cuts and there is not the support for our young people who need it.  These cuts also extend into the areas of mental health support and addiction, which tend to drive knife crime.

It starts in the home,I grew up in impoverished circumstances ( like lots of working class kids) and  never needed a youth service to tell me not to carry a knife, it's a relatively recent thing so where did it come from?.

I didn't need a youth service either to tell me what was right or wrong but I attended a youth club four nights a week and five nights when the monthly disco was on.  The youth service gave me something to focus on and kept me from hanging around street corners.

[Hound]

Before retiring I headed up a behaviour unit in a school and we carried out a lot of work on knife crime.  The lads would talk openly about carrying a knife or wanting to stab someone up because they had upset them.  A lot of it was talk but one lad's comments stuck with me.  His reasoning for carrying a knife was "You've got to use a knife before they use it on you".

Before that, I used to work for Connexions with young offenders and their families and would put a lot of interventions in place to prevent them from re-offending.  It is these grass root programmes that work in communities that help deter young people going off the rails.

All these services, along with the youth service have gone due to years of Tory cuts and there is not the support for our young people who need it.  These cuts also extend into the areas of mental health support and addiction, which tend to drive knife crime.

It starts in the home,I grew up in impoverished circumstances ( like lots of working class kids) and  never needed a youth service to tell me not to carry a knife, it's a relatively recent thing so where did it come from?.

I didn't need a youth service either to tell me what was right or wrong but I attended a youth club four nights a week and five nights when the monthly disco was on.  The youth service gave me something to focus on and kept me from hanging around street corners.

You must've been one of the privileged kids who's parents could afford the youth club admission fee.

[Norman_Conquest]

Before retiring I headed up a behaviour unit in a school and we carried out a lot of work on knife crime.  The lads would talk openly about carrying a knife or wanting to stab someone up because they had upset them.  A lot of it was talk but one lad's comments stuck with me.  His reasoning for carrying a knife was "You've got to use a knife before they use it on you".

Before that, I used to work for Connexions with young offenders and their families and would put a lot of interventions in place to prevent them from re-offending.  It is these grass root programmes that work in communities that help deter young people going off the rails.

All these services, along with the youth service have gone due to years of Tory cuts and there is not the support for our young people who need it.  These cuts also extend into the areas of mental health support and addiction, which tend to drive knife crime.

It starts in the home,I grew up in impoverished circumstances ( like lots of working class kids) and  never needed a youth service to tell me not to carry a knife, it's a relatively recent thing so where did it come from?.

I didn't need a youth service either to tell me what was right or wrong but I attended a youth club four nights a week and five nights when the monthly disco was on.  The youth service gave me something to focus on and kept me from hanging around street corners.

You must've been one of the privileged kids who's parents could afford the youth club admission fee.

I'm that old it only cost 3p to get in.   

[BoroRedKen]

I bet it was in the Andrews NC?

Most of us TS6'ers have had that rights of passage!!
🤣👍

[Hound]

Haha, I like you are making use of the more feature,

It was 5p for me, I stood outside with the "poor kids"

[fukyu]

I bet it was in the Andrews NC?

Most of us TS6'ers have had that rights of passage!!
🤣👍

I went to the Andrews a few times around 1975,I stopped going because they wouldn't let me bring my knife with me.

[Steboro]

Couldn't pay me to live in London.  Now or ever in the past.

Absolutely soul less place.

My uncle lived in some borough called Tootsie or something like that. He would take me to his local and talk about depressing. Nobody spoke to anyone or barely cracked a smile.  This was late 90s and every time I went to stay with him it was the same.

Last time I went was the playoff final and some Doyle at Watford station started on me saying I was gawping at a disabled person and did I want to take a picture.  I was keeping a close eye on my 2 kids that were with me both were under 12 year old.  I tried explaining this to him and he just got more aggressive, then out of nowhere some bloke lamped him and he wandered off the other way.  It was quite surreal.

The Tube is completely devot of human emotions.  What a pack of miserable fuckers

[fukyu]

Carrying knives is a relatively recent thing??

On the scale we are seeing now, seems every chav kid and ethnic is tooled up from an early age.

[newyddion]

Carrying knives is a relatively recent thing??

On the scale we are seeing now, seems every chav kid and ethnic is tooled up from an early age.

So we're ok with the toffs with their big teeth and floppy hair?

Fank gawd!

champagne corks and polo sticks tho.. could have an eye out!

[Hound]

Carrying knives is a relatively recent thing??

On the scale we are seeing now, seems every chav kid and ethnic is tooled up from an early age.

So we're ok with the toffs with their big teeth and floppy hair?

Fank gawd!

champagne corks and polo sticks tho.. could have an eye out!

Just had a quick look on crime stoppers most wanted section,
Can't see anyone that fits that description,

[BoroRedKen]

Carrying knives is a relatively recent thing??

On the scale we are seeing now, seems every chav kid and ethnic is tooled up from an early age.

So we're ok with the toffs with their big teeth and floppy hair?

Fank gawd!

champagne corks and polo sticks tho.. could have an eye out!

[fukyu]

Carrying knives is a relatively recent thing??

On the scale we are seeing now, seems every chav kid and ethnic is tooled up from an early age.

So we're ok with the toffs with their big teeth and floppy hair?

Fank gawd!

champagne corks and polo sticks tho.. could have an eye out!

What an idiotic response to a crime that's killing innocents.Fuck of back to flyme you stupid cunt.

[newyddion]

Carrying knives is a relatively recent thing??

On the scale we are seeing now, seems every chav kid and ethnic is tooled up from an early age.

So we're ok with the toffs with their big teeth and floppy hair?

Fank gawd!

champagne corks and polo sticks tho.. could have an eye out!

What an idiotic response to a crime that's killing innocents.Fuck of back to flyme you stupid cunt.

But it wasn't tho was it.