STARMER

[Kippers]

Is getting fucking hammered in this debate.
He is full of shit with no answers.

Scary times coming up.

[Clem Fandango]

Labour's strategy is to keep their heads down, don't fuck it up by making any definitive statements or promises and just ride the "we are not the Conservatives" ticket to victory.

 

[borope]

Cant wait for them to ruin the Oil and Gas industry. 

[Geoff_B]

I can guarantee otr it will be complete opposite. It was when Corbyn got murdered in them.

Starmer has just said he has never used private health. Can guarantee Tory strategists are now devolving into any health treatment he or members of his family have ever had

[Kippers]

The way things are in 12 months time is Raynor will be PM and Boris will be back in charge of the Tories.

Starmer just hasn't got it. He is like the proverbial rabbit in the bright lights.

[borope]

All crying OTR that its biased towards Tories of course.

[Bud Wiser]

Theres no question sickly Starmer will be ousted from within well before his term is up.

As Boris quite rightly said: The country needs a leader not a lawyer.

So in an increasingly dangerous world I wonder how a possible Trump lead U.S. would relish doing business with the likes of Angela Raynor & David Lammy?

[Geoff_B]

You gov has sunak as the winner

[John Trebor]

I can guarantee otr it will be complete opposite. It was when Corbyn got murdered in them.

Starmer has just said he has never used private health. Can guarantee Tory strategists are now devolving into any health treatment he or members of his family have ever had

I've got a feeling that might come back and bite him.
Hard to believe he has never had private health insurance or undergone a private medical.
And if not, why not? He would be taking pressure off the "underfunded and overworked" NHS.

[Geoff_B]

I can guarantee otr it will be complete opposite. It was when Corbyn got murdered in them.

Starmer has just said he has never used private health. Can guarantee Tory strategists are now devolving into any health treatment he or members of his family have ever had

I've got a feeling that might come back and bite him.
Hard to believe he has never had private health insurance or undergone a private medical.
And if not, why not? He would be taking pressure off the "underfunded and overworked" NHS.

Soon as he said it I was like, hang on a minute that's a bold statement to make. Might be true but every inch of his and family medical history will be getting dug into

[newyddion]

Round 1 - Question 1
Kier - Sunak
0         1

Round 2 - Question 2
Kier - Sunak
0         2

Round 3 - Question 3
Kier - Sunak
1        2

Round 4 - Question 4
Kier - Sunak
2        2

(Commercial break)

Round 5 - Question 5
Kier - Sunak
2        3

Round 6 - Question 6
Kier - Sunak
3        3

Round 7 - Question 7
Kier    Sunak
4         4

Round 8 - Question 8
Kier     Sunak
5         4

Round 9 - Question 9
Kier     Sunak
5         5

Round 10 - Question 10
Kier      Sunak
6          5

Round 11 - Question 11
Kier      Sunak
7          5

CLOSING STATEMENTS
Kier      Sunak
7           6

[LIDDLE_TOWERS999]

HE'S A FUCKING SPINELESS CUNT OF THE HIGHEST ORDER....EVEN WHEN YOU THINK THE COUNTRY COULDN'T GET MORE FUCKED UP....ALONG COMES THIS SHINY FACED TWAT TO DO JUST THAT 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

[Gboro64]

Round 1 - Question 1
Kier - Sunak
0         1

Round 2 - Question 2
Kier - Sunak
0         2

Round 3 - Question 3
Kier - Sunak
1        2

Round 4 - Question 4
Kier - Sunak
2        2

(Commercial break)

Round 5 - Question 5
Kier - Sunak
2        3

Round 6 - Question 6
Kier - Sunak
3        3

Round 7 - Question 7
Kier    Sunak
4         4

Round 8 - Question 8
Kier     Sunak
5         4

Round 9 - Question 9
Kier     Sunak
5         5

Round 10 - Question 10
Kier      Sunak
6          5

Round 11 - Question 11
Kier      Sunak
7          5

CLOSING STATEMENTS
Kier      Sunak
7           6

If whataboutary floats your boat then yes Starmer won. If answers about how to solve these problems Sunak wiped the floor with him.
Starmer had no answers other than what the Tories have done over 14 years. He didn't even have a plan for the migrants who land on the beaches over here.

[Nosmo-King]

Very blinkered view Newy. If Starmer impressed you - good luck.As a potential Prime Minister God help us. What came across was unless he is coached in most aspects of how to answer questions the guy is clueless.

The facial expressions, constant licking of lips showed a weakness and fully exposed him.

[newyddion]

Very blinkered view Newy. If Starmer impressed you - good luck.As a potential Prime Minister God help us. What came across was unless he is coached in most aspects of how to answer questions the guy is clueless.

The facial expressions, constant linking of lips showed a weakness and fully exposed him.

Neither impressed me.. not a blinkered view to have one different from yours. to me I saw a split decision.. in favour of Starmer. the audience laughed at Rishi over the NHS waiting lists (a knockdown by Kier) and then gasped when he tried to blame the junior doctors.

It was close.. Rishi's better the devil you know closing speech didn't cut the mustard for me.

I thought Keir gave Sunak too much time and was no where near aggressive enough.

Sitting back, not saying anything controversial and giving Sunak enough rope to hang himself must be the name of the game.

It did like that bite and that knockout punch tho..

[Kippers]

Round 1 - Question 1
Kier - Sunak
0         1

Round 2 - Question 2
Kier - Sunak
0         2

Round 3 - Question 3
Kier - Sunak
1        2

Round 4 - Question 4
Kier - Sunak
2        2

(Commercial break)

Round 5 - Question 5
Kier - Sunak
2        3

Round 6 - Question 6
Kier - Sunak
3        3

Round 7 - Question 7
Kier    Sunak
4         4

Round 8 - Question 8
Kier     Sunak
5         4

Round 9 - Question 9
Kier     Sunak
5         5

Round 10 - Question 10
Kier      Sunak
6          5

Round 11 - Question 11
Kier      Sunak
7          5

CLOSING STATEMENTS
Kier      Sunak
7           6

If whataboutary floats your boat then yes Starmer won. If answers about how to solve these problems Sunak wiped the floor with him.
Starmer had no answers other than what the Tories have done over 14 years. He didn't even have a plan for the migrants who land on the beaches over here.

I dont get this 14 years issue.
I think most people would be reasonably happy over the last 14 years. What is it you want ?

[Nosmo-King]

Very blinkered view Newy. If Starmer impressed you - good luck.As a potential Prime Minister God help us. What came across was unless he is coached in most aspects of how to answer questions the guy is clueless.

The facial expressions, constant linking of lips showed a weakness and fully exposed him.

Neither impressed me.. not a blinkered view to have one different from yours. to me I saw a split decision.. in favour of Starmer. the audience laughed at Rishi over the NHS waiting lists (a knockdown by Kier) and then gasped when he tried to blame the junior doctors.

It was close.. Rishi's better the devil you know closing speech didn't cut the mustard for me.

I thought Keir gave Sunak too much time and was no where near aggressive enough.

Sitting back, not saying anything controversial and giving Sunak enough rope to hang himself must be the name of the game.

It did like that bite and that knockout punch tho..

So striking junior doctors are not a factor? Better tell them Newy as their strikes are therefore futile.

[newyddion]

Very blinkered view Newy. If Starmer impressed you - good luck.As a potential Prime Minister God help us. What came across was unless he is coached in most aspects of how to answer questions the guy is clueless.

The facial expressions, constant linking of lips showed a weakness and fully exposed him.

Neither impressed me.. not a blinkered view to have one different from yours. to me I saw a split decision.. in favour of Starmer. the audience laughed at Rishi over the NHS waiting lists (a knockdown by Kier) and then gasped when he tried to blame the junior doctors.

It was close.. Rishi's better the devil you know closing speech didn't cut the mustard for me.

I thought Keir gave Sunak too much time and was no where near aggressive enough.

Sitting back, not saying anything controversial and giving Sunak enough rope to hang himself must be the name of the game.

It did like that bite and that knockout punch tho..

So striking junior doctors are not a factor? Better tell them Newy as their strikes are therefore futile.

Striking doctors didn't tell Rishi sunak that waiting lists were going down when they were going up.

If that was Diane Abbott it would be meme city!

[newyddion]

Round 1 - Question 1
Kier - Sunak
0         1

Round 2 - Question 2
Kier - Sunak
0         2

Round 3 - Question 3
Kier - Sunak
1        2

Round 4 - Question 4
Kier - Sunak
2        2

(Commercial break)

Round 5 - Question 5
Kier - Sunak
2        3

Round 6 - Question 6
Kier - Sunak
3        3

Round 7 - Question 7
Kier    Sunak
4         4

Round 8 - Question 8
Kier     Sunak
5         4

Round 9 - Question 9
Kier     Sunak
5         5

Round 10 - Question 10
Kier      Sunak
6          5

Round 11 - Question 11
Kier      Sunak
7          5

CLOSING STATEMENTS
Kier      Sunak
7           6

If whataboutary floats your boat then yes Starmer won. If answers about how to solve these problems Sunak wiped the floor with him.
Starmer had no answers other than what the Tories have done over 14 years. He didn't even have a plan for the migrants who land on the beaches over here.

whataboutery.. you're gonna get that in a discussion I'm afraid.

the conservatives government has created the problems we have.. so I guess the simplest most inoffensive response to that is to not be the conservative government.

[Ural Quntz]

the conservatives government has created the problems we have

Typical

You can take the boy out of boreme but you can't take boreme out of the boy

[newyddion]

HE'S A FUCKING SPINELESS CUNT OF THE HIGHEST ORDER....EVEN WHEN YOU THINK THE COUNTRY COULDN'T GET MORE FUCKED UP....ALONG COMES THIS SHINY FACED TWAT TO DO JUST THAT 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

Has Sunak got a spine? Laughed at the idea of working class friends, can't use a bank card, can't fill up a car with petrol, made his money on the back of the financial crash and has been sorting out his wife's billionaire family business.

Oh, and he didn't even want British citizenship.. a US citizen paying tax to the US.

[newyddion]

the conservatives government has created the problems we have

Typical

You can take the boy out of boreme but you can't take boreme out of the boy

You can take the blah blah..
probably sounds mint in your head.

Whoever is in charge, that's who bears the responsibility. Good or bad.

[TerryCochranesSocks]

Round 1 - Question 1
Kier - Sunak
0         1

Round 2 - Question 2
Kier - Sunak
0         2

Round 3 - Question 3
Kier - Sunak
1        2

Round 4 - Question 4
Kier - Sunak
2        2

(Commercial break)

Round 5 - Question 5
Kier - Sunak
2        3

Round 6 - Question 6
Kier - Sunak
3        3

Round 7 - Question 7
Kier    Sunak
4         4

Round 8 - Question 8
Kier     Sunak
5         4

Round 9 - Question 9
Kier     Sunak
5         5

Round 10 - Question 10
Kier      Sunak
6          5

Round 11 - Question 11
Kier      Sunak
7          5

CLOSING STATEMENTS
Kier      Sunak
7           6

So you didn't watch it then?

[teamboro]

Newy carry on supporting the circus because that's all it is they and I mean they have fucked up the country,take us into wars nobody wants,import people no they aren't migrants that's every member of parliament you want to stick by the circus carry on Liebour and Tories are 2 cheeks of the same arse oh and another thing labour fucked the NHS the last time they were in because of PFI a no d don't deny it

[newyddion]

So you didn't watch it then?
[/quote]

it's just how I scored it.. different people look for different things, some actions count more for some than others.
as wet as keir came across.. for me.. sunak got the worst and most extreme reactions from the audience

i'm not saying that's how it was.. just as I saw it. not saying i'm right or wrong. just my perception.