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Lucy Letby

Started by BoroRedKen, May 21, 2024, 03:15:38 AM

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BoroRedKen

What a country we live in.

How many babies were killed?
What about their families?

We have a footy forum "campaigning" for her release!

They will not accept any conviction that goes against their "beliefs". How long before it becomes the Tories fault vos of the NHS?

Babies were murdered. What about them?
Cunts man.

newyddion

Quote from: Nekder (Kenny) on May 21, 2024, 03:15:38 AMWhat a country we live in.

How many babies were killed?
What about their families?

We have a footy forum "campaigning" for her release!

They will not accept any conviction that goes against their "beliefs". How long before it becomes the Tories fault vos of the NHS?

Babies were murdered. What about them?
Cunts man.

Herd mentality.. she was guilty before the trial in the public's eye.. the press had a field day and brought up many things that didn't have anything to do with the trial.

The evidence didn't seem to prove that she did kill any babies.. justice needs to be served. It's not Labour or Tories or Brexit.. folks are losing their minds right now picking sides like football teams and piling every conceivable argument or point into left or right, red or blue. Takes away the need for critical thought at least.. just bang the drum or cheer for your side!

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Right or Wrong has long gone out of the window!

TommyDickfingers

Quote from: newyddion on May 21, 2024, 11:22:01 AMRight or Wrong has long gone out of the window!

This is exactly right.

Society is so polarised now that you have to have a side in almost everything, it's pathetic.

Redcar Belgrade

It's an astonishing and shocking case of which the truth will never likely be known. I find it incredulous that the defence only called upon a single witness - the janitor of the hospital. What on Earth is the logic behind that decision when, according to that New Yorker article, professionals in both law and medicine were queueing up to discredit the case for the prosecution.

If the article, which is clearly written by a Letby sympathiser, is even reasonably accurate in its reporting of the trail, an appeal will surely be upheld and there will be a retrial. It's not necessarily about this specific case but how the judicial system is supposed to function.

I hope she didn't commit the crimes because the thought that people are capable of such atrocities is unfathomable to me. Your heart must go out to the families involved.

BoroRedKen

But what about her journal entries? That cannot be disputed. The post-it notes?
The obsession with the Dr who dumped her?
 
The fact of no suspicious deaths since is also quite chilling.

I still think she is guilty.

newyddion

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Quote from: Nekder (Kenny) on May 21, 2024, 01:08:02 PMBut what about her journal entries? That cannot be disputed. The post-it notes?
The obsession with the Dr who dumped her?
 
The fact of no suspicious deaths since is also quite chilling.

I still think she is guilty.

Have you read her journal entries and correlated them with the dates and incidents together with evidence in context?

"The obsession with the Dr who dumped her?" - very dramatic, makes a good tag line for a tabloid story. It there any truth in it and does it impact on the case on any way?

The fact of no suspicious deaths could mean that procedures have improved, equipment has been improved, the number of high risk children going into that ward had reduced.

You say you think she is guilty.. but is it really based on thought? You are saying she is guilty and you have heard she is guilty. Obviously she has been found guilty and it would be fair to assume she is guilty purely based on that.

But thinking? I feel like it's one of those words that tends to get thrown around now along with 'in my opinion' - 9 times out of 10 that is not going to be someone's opinion.. just something they have heard or been told and they agreed with it without qualification.

I hope that justice is served.. a few things didn't sit right with that case and if there are grounds for an appeal or retrial then that of course should go ahead.

Clem Fandango

I didn't know anything about this case. 

So I read a few articles including this: https://web.archive.org/web/20240521102229/https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/05/20/lucy-letby-was-found-guilty-of-killing-seven-babies-did-she-do-it.

Based on the issues that raises it would be hard for me to say she was clearly guilty.

tunstall


John Trebor

Quote from: Nekder (Kenny) on May 21, 2024, 01:08:02 PMBut what about her journal entries? That cannot be disputed. The post-it notes?
The obsession with the Dr who dumped her?
 
The fact of no suspicious deaths since is also quite chilling.

I still think she is guilty.
Dr. Who dumped her? I bet it was that Matt Smith. I knew he was a bad'un.

Ural Quntz

Quote from: Sherlock Suxcox on May 21, 2024, 03:45:22 PMI didn't know anything about this case. 

So I read a few articles including this: https://web.archive.org/web/20240521102229/https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/05/20/lucy-letby-was-found-guilty-of-killing-seven-babies-did-she-do-it.

Based on the issues that raises it would be hard for me to say she was clearly guilty.

What do you have to do - find her holding a babies head dripping blood and a 9 inch carver in her hand?


newyddion

Quote from: Ural Quntz (Moderator) on May 21, 2024, 06:06:14 PM
Quote from: Sherlock Suxcox on May 21, 2024, 03:45:22 PMI didn't know anything about this case. 

So I read a few articles including this: https://web.archive.org/web/20240521102229/https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/05/20/lucy-letby-was-found-guilty-of-killing-seven-babies-did-she-do-it.

Based on the issues that raises it would be hard for me to say she was clearly guilty.

What do you have to do - find her holding a babies head dripping blood and a 9 inch carver in her hand?



I mean.. that'd do it.

Clem Fandango

Quote from: Ural Quntz (Moderator) on May 21, 2024, 06:06:14 PM
Quote from: Sherlock Suxcox on May 21, 2024, 03:45:22 PMI didn't know anything about this case. 

So I read a few articles including this: https://web.archive.org/web/20240521102229/https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/05/20/lucy-letby-was-found-guilty-of-killing-seven-babies-did-she-do-it.

Based on the issues that raises it would be hard for me to say she was clearly guilty.

What do you have to do - find her holding a babies head dripping blood and a 9 inch carver in her hand?


Something more than "she was nearby when it happened for some, not all, of these possibly iffy cases".