MORE CULTURAL ENRICHMENT....

[Eastcoastred]

She was 27 and he's 25.
They breed young I know but that's stretching the bounds of reason.

I think it's "a mother" not his mother.

Obviously miss read by me,, Cheers Tell,,

[Blott]

father and son who murdered and mutilated two men with a blowtorch have been jailed for life.

Ian MacLeod, 66, and Dean McLeod, 42, killed Derek Johnston, 37, and Desmond Rowlings, 66, at a flat in Edinburgh in 2022.

Both victims had body parts cut off and letters burned into their heads during the attacks.

The father and son admitted murdering their victims when they appeared at the High Court in Edinburgh last year.

[BoroRedKen]

father and son who murdered and mutilated two men with a blowtorch have been jailed for life.

Ian MacLeod, 66, and Dean McLeod, 42, killed Derek Johnston, 37, and Desmond Rowlings, 66, at a flat in Edinburgh in 2022.

Both victims had body parts cut off and letters burned into their heads during the attacks.

The father and son admitted murdering their victims when they appeared at the High Court in Edinburgh last year.

What point are you making?

Nobody is saying that its only a crime reserved for "foreigners".

What it does is show that we have enough criminals in the country without importing more.
This fella is from Bangladesh.

Whataboutery on a grand scale......

[BoroRedKen]

Why are the Home Office refusing to reveal the stats on criminal convictions of ALL immigrants?

This guy came to the UK 2 years ago on a student visa!
He was on bail for threats to kill the poor woman.

I know a lad from Redcar who, its his 1st run in with the law, is on remand for threats to kill against a lad that robbed his house.

[Blott]

father and son who murdered and mutilated two men with a blowtorch have been jailed for life.

Ian MacLeod, 66, and Dean McLeod, 42, killed Derek Johnston, 37, and Desmond Rowlings, 66, at a flat in Edinburgh in 2022.

Both victims had body parts cut off and letters burned into their heads during the attacks.

The father and son admitted murdering their victims when they appeared at the High Court in Edinburgh last year.

What point are you making?

Nobody is saying that its only a crime reserved for "foreigners".

What it does is show that we have enough criminals in the country without importing more.
This fella is from Bangladesh.

Whataboutery on a grand scale......

no I keep telling you my opinion. There are evil people, black, white. Chinese, Asian.

[BoroRedKen]

father and son who murdered and mutilated two men with a blowtorch have been jailed for life.

Ian MacLeod, 66, and Dean McLeod, 42, killed Derek Johnston, 37, and Desmond Rowlings, 66, at a flat in Edinburgh in 2022.

Both victims had body parts cut off and letters burned into their heads during the attacks.

The father and son admitted murdering their victims when they appeared at the High Court in Edinburgh last year.

What point are you making?

Nobody is saying that its only a crime reserved for "foreigners".

What it does is show that we have enough criminals in the country without importing more.
This fella is from Bangladesh.

Whataboutery on a grand scale......

no I keep telling you my opinion. There are evil people, black, white. Chinese, Asian.

When was the last time a Chinese person went on a stabbing spree? Japanese? Singaporean?

[Blott]

You mean like the Jocks I put in my thread?

[BoroRedKen]

You brought whataboutery into a debate about a specific topic.

What is the significance of the letters cut/burnt into the Scottish victims you have me wondering now.

"YLT, VT, YT".

[Blott]

I find it hard to believe that anyone can dispute the events of Oct 7th.
There are videos out there not featuring "crisis actors".

never underestimate the stupidity of stupid people. Why we accept the death numbers supplied by Hamas I will never understand.

[In With the Lurpak]

LMAO If people can't see what a fucking fraud clown this Blot is then you will never see.

You got him on the rope and he tries like a little rat above to weasel his way out of it. 

He is 100% a plant from Bore me here to disrupt and because of the  easy going nature of this place he is allowed to do it at will. He will say he's giving his views thing is all his views are to provoke almost 99.9% of the time. That one above is 100% how they do it on flyme.. they will put up something exactly like Blot has just done then the person they aimed it at gets the usual ban for having the nerve to start such a thread.


FUCK YOU BLOTTO

[BoroRedKen]

I dont know about that Crocks.

But you did say an interesting thing.
because of the  easy going nature of this place

I like that thought Crocks. I do think its "good for business" that members like Blott can post opposing views without the "fear" of bannings and pile ons just for saying something that most of the board will be likely to disagree with.

I will be honest and say i do pride myself on being "approachable". There is NO WAY a certain Mr Nichols or Mr Small would "permit" the way some members argue with me.
Can you imagine calling Muscles "a daft cunt" and still being a member an hour afterwards?.

I do see the abuse we lot get. Yet lately i have been just reading stuff. How anyone can say this place is full of hate if you read some stuff OTR? That place lately is so toxic its best left alone.

[TerryCochranesSocks]

father and son who murdered and mutilated two men with a blowtorch have been jailed for life.

Ian MacLeod, 66, and Dean McLeod, 42, killed Derek Johnston, 37, and Desmond Rowlings, 66, at a flat in Edinburgh in 2022.

Both victims had body parts cut off and letters burned into their heads during the attacks.

The father and son admitted murdering their victims when they appeared at the High Court in Edinburgh last year.

What point are you making?

Nobody is saying that its only a crime reserved for "foreigners".

What it does is show that we have enough criminals in the country without importing more.
This fella is from Bangladesh.

Whataboutery on a grand scale......

no I keep telling you my opinion. There are evil people, black, white. Chinese, Asian.

You know full well that the issue is the disproportionate amount of crime attributable to those people who who come to the UK on student visas or illegally and the obvious problems we're seeing when a particular group show no desire to assimilate in our culture and just recreate they're own country here.

[rutters]

I agree with Terry. It's a matter of proportionality.

When patterns emerge you have to deal with them judiciously.

[Blott]

father and son who murdered and mutilated two men with a blowtorch have been jailed for life.

Ian MacLeod, 66, and Dean McLeod, 42, killed Derek Johnston, 37, and Desmond Rowlings, 66, at a flat in Edinburgh in 2022.

Both victims had body parts cut off and letters burned into their heads during the attacks.

The father and son admitted murdering their victims when they appeared at the High Court in Edinburgh last year.

What point are you making?

Nobody is saying that its only a crime reserved for "foreigners".

What it does is show that we have enough criminals in the country without importing more.
This fella is from Bangladesh.

Whataboutery on a grand scale......

no I keep telling you my opinion. There are evil people, black, white. Chinese, Asian.

You know full well that the issue is the disproportionate amount of crime attributable to those people who who come to the UK on student visas or illegally and the obvious problems we're seeing when a particular group show no desire to assimilate in our culture and just recreate they're own country here.

find me the evidence of that. Statistical not word of mouth.


I don't see criminals by their creed, colour or race, I see criminals, some of them evil


I said this before. If you are an immigrant and within 5 years of you coming to this country you have a jail sentence over 6 months, at the end of the term you go home. I don't give a flying F if your family are here or you are in danger by going back.

[TerryCochranesSocks]

My concern is religious identity and the honour killings, forced marriage to children, Shariah issues, treatment of women, attitude towards those of other religions etc. that go with it rather than ethnicity. I'm really not concerned about skin colour.

So, a statistic for you -

Muslims made up 18% of the UK's prison population in June 2023, they were 7% of the UK's general population at the time.
That is disproportionality.
Please bear in mind also that this figure is skewed down by the fact that our police and courts go out of their way to ignore Muslim crime.

 

[Blott]

The data I see is 15 pc but hey ho, you backed your argument up with evidence that's OK by me. Then the comment about Muslins  getting an easy time completely refutes it.


How can a group who by your evidence are 3 times more likely to be in prison be treated with kid gloves? It doesn't make sense.


Like I said, criminals are criminals their ethnicity is irrelevant.

[TerryCochranesSocks]

The data I see is 15 pc but hey ho, you backed your argument up with evidence that's OK by me. Then the comment about Muslins  getting an easy time completely refutes it.


How can a group who by your evidence are 3 times more likely to be in prison be treated with kid gloves? It doesn't make sense.


Like I said, criminals are criminals their ethnicity is irrelevant.

If you're looking at a 15% figure it's a few years out of date, the Muslim prison population percentage is rising year on year.

See page 15 for the 18% figure for June 2023

https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN04334/SN04334.pdf



My comment about the figures being skewed down because both the police and the courts have gone out of their way to ignore Muslim crime can be easily backed up by even by your beloved Antie amongst others..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-67967919

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-61863603

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/07/12/telford-scandal-1000-children-abused-police-feared-investigating/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2268395/Adil-Rashid-Paedophile-claimed-Muslim-upbringing-meant-didnt-know-illegal-sex-girl-13.html

Recent instances, where Christians have been prevented from singing hymns in public and threatened with arrest while Muslim public prayer etc. is protected by police, are plentiful. I think only the "I'm determined not to see this" type are the only people who haven't noticed the differing attitudes to white British and Christian compared to Muslims.

Anyway. That's me out of this one, it's depressing.

[Johnny Thunder]

[Blott]

The data I see is 15 pc but hey ho, you backed your argument up with evidence that's OK by me. Then the comment about Muslins  getting an easy time completely refutes it.


How can a group who by your evidence are 3 times more likely to be in prison be treated with kid gloves? It doesn't make sense.


Like I said, criminals are criminals their ethnicity is irrelevant.

If you're looking at a 15% figure it's a few years out of date, the Muslim prison population percentage is rising year on year.

See page 15 for the 18% figure for June 2023

https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN04334/SN04334.pdf



My comment about the figures being skewed down because both the police and the courts have gone out of their way to ignore Muslim crime can be easily backed up by even by your beloved Antie amongst others..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-67967919

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-61863603

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/07/12/telford-scandal-1000-children-abused-police-feared-investigating/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2268395/Adil-Rashid-Paedophile-claimed-Muslim-upbringing-meant-didnt-know-illegal-sex-girl-13.html

Recent instances, where Christians have been prevented from singing hymns in public and threatened with arrest while Muslim public prayer etc. is protected by police, are plentiful. I think only the "I'm determined not to see this" type are the only people who haven't noticed the differing attitudes to white British and Christian compared to Muslims.

Anyway. That's me out of this one, it's depressing.

it seems you are right, I will happily back down on this one. A good slam dunk.


Obviously you are anti the Beeb, who is your news channel if choice?

[TerryCochranesSocks]

Fair play.

I rarely watch tv news, in fact I rarely watch tv nowadays.
A few papers and magazines online and a lot of searching through the newsfeeds to see if I can work out the different angles.
I have become (somewhat sadly) extremely distrustful of almost all tv news and most mainstream media.

[Ural Quntz]

Fair play.

I rarely watch tv news, in fact I rarely watch tv nowadays.
A few papers and magazines online and a lot of searching through the newsfeeds to see if I can work out the different angles.
I have become (somewhat sadly) extremely distrustful of almost all tv news and most mainstream media.

Moi Aussi!

I get mine from Crocky - he's usually spot on and is in the know about most things

 

[RiversideRifle]

 

[Westlane_rightwinger]

Was the fella Hindu? As, boys and girls, we are meant to believe Hindus and Muslims are all the same. They are chalk and cheese.

Blotty, you did not grow up with Muslims and they did not go to your schools, your Priests saw to that with your gold obsessed hierarchy having enough experience of Moors to understand there was nowt in for people of your, perverse, backward religion. Unlike you, I like many others encountered "them" when I was young. We didn't understand their smells, their ways and their why fors but we knew they did not come with open arms more a backward, arrogant hatred for "our" ways. Your schools did not have an Urdu unit on "smokers corners" you couldn't make it up, and I don't need to. Of all the multitude of peoples who settle in the UK there is one kind, head and shoulders above all others, who come with an attitude, determined not to integrate as their ways and their god must always come first.

This chap should be deported, along with every member of his family and every member of his "church".

You know "them" for from your shifts at sixty odd year old who imho has selective hearing and understanding. I could say the early onset of the proverbial but I'm not medically trained. You view them through rose tinted and that is your right but it is underpinned by naivety.

We share common birthplace, upbringing to a point and most importantly a  love of our team. I have deliberately avoided political disputes with you as I see common themes. You switch subjects when it becomes overwhelmingly obvious that your argument is falling short. TBF you do concede to Tel, understandably, but he is well educated and does not escape criticism. Not his fault he went to PS but everyone who promotes that kind of education is going against the wall come the revolution. 

Yours having consumed several shandies..before 10:00am WLRW xxx

[BoroRedKen]

Well put imho Wingy.

Not a nasty or condescending reply.

 

[TerryCochranesSocks]

Is PS porn sites?
Asking for a friend.