15 years locked up for rape

[Blott]

And DNA proves it wasn't him.

His compensation should be £1 trillion.

[LIDDLE_TOWERS999]

And DNA proves it wasn't him.

His compensation should be £1 trillion.

WAS 17 YEARS ACTUALLY 👍

GREATER MANCHESTER POLICE A FUCKING DISGRACE 😡😡😡

NO DNA EVIDENCE BUT CONVICTED BY SOMEONE WHO SAID THEY SEEN HIM AT THE SCENE OF THE CRIME 

[LIDDLE_TOWERS999]

AND THE WORST THING IS 😡😡😡 THE CUNTS SPERM THEY HAVE NOW DETECTED BY DNA ON THE GIRL WHO WAS RAPED'S TOP.... HAS STILL NOT BEEN ARRESTED YET 👎😡😡😡👎 GMP A FUCKING BIG JOKE LIKE CLEVELAND POLICE 😡😡😡👎👎👎👎👎👎👎

[Blott]

I cannot think of anything worse. OK waking up in your coffin as the curtain closes.

[rutters]

It's about to get a whole lot worse when Labour win.
Innocent men in prison will be the norm.

[BoroRedKen]

I cannot think of anything worse. OK waking up in your coffin as the curtain closes.

If you let me conduct the service there is a chance you might*........

*Its 1 of them "you had to be there" things...

[Blott]

It's about to get a whole lot worse when Labour win.
Innocent men in prison will be the norm.

What a load of baloney.

Of all the daft messages I have ever read that's in the top 5.


You have zero evidence to back that up.


Here's a less stupid message I made up.'you can chew ball bearings'



I can cope with reasoned debate I disagree with but putting up unreasonable crap I hard to bare.
 

[rutters]

Specialist suites for alleged victims
Specialist officers for alleged victims
Specialist investigators for alleged victims
Targets for charging
Targets for conviction
Withholding of evidence discrediting alleged victim
Withholding of evidence exonerating alleged perpetrator
Specialist 'training' for Juries
Specialist 'training' for Judges
Specialist rape courts
Plaintiff allowed to record testimony
Plaintiff excused cross-examination
Juryless trials
Lowering of evidential thresholds
Conviction by testimony only

If that's not enough for you, go check-out Anneliese Dodds's or Vera Baird's twitter feeds.

Careful with those ball bearings.

[BoroRedKen]

Hey up though Rutters!

SKS has said a woman is an adult female!

Mr Flip Flop himself FINALLY commits an opinion!

OTR will want him out now. He will be transphobic now.

Under a Tory government 1 person getting offended by me was enough to get me raided and nicked remember Blotty.
Under Labour i would have been in the Tower!!

[Northallerton_Boro]

It's about to get a whole lot worse when Labour win.
Innocent men in prison will be the norm.

To add to this.

All white men are guilty of anything!!

[rutters]

Hey up though Rutters!

SKS has said a woman is an adult female!

Mr Flip Flop himself FINALLY commits an opinion!

OTR will want him out now. He will be transphobic now.

Under a Tory government 1 person getting offended by me was enough to get me raided and nicked remember Blotty.
Under Labour i would have been in the Tower!!

Ey-up kenny

Just to let you know that, when DPP, SKS was also the instigator of the 'Believe all Women' mantra which means that poor blokes like the above was to be automatically disbelieved.

He wanted alleged perpetrator publicised (whilst anonymising accusers) so that any malicious women can point the finger with impunity and people like our ball-bearing chewer friend can say 'They can't all be lying'.

Meanwhile in the real world: https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/woman-given-strong-words-advice-9735584

[Blott]

Specialist suites for alleged victims
Specialist officers for alleged victims
Specialist investigators for alleged victims
Targets for charging
Targets for conviction
Withholding of evidence discrediting alleged victim
Withholding of evidence exonerating alleged perpetrator
Specialist 'training' for Juries
Specialist 'training' for Judges
Specialist rape courts
Plaintiff allowed to record testimony
Plaintiff excused cross-examination
Juryless trials
Lowering of evidential thresholds
Conviction by testimony only

If that's not enough for you, go check-out Anneliese Dodds's or Vera Baird's twitter feeds.

Careful with those ball bearings.

Where is it Labour policy to withhold information? The rest seems common sense to me.

Did you make that up or is it Labour policy? Starter is a top top solicitor Barrister. Starmer became a barrister in 1987 at the Middle Temple, becoming a bencher there in 2009. He served as a legal officer for the campaign group Liberty until 1990. He was a member of Doughty Street Chambers from 1990 onwards, primarily working on human rights issues.

As for Vera Baird her opinions are hers not mine.

You are defending stupidity.

[Blott]

It's about to get a whole lot worse when Labour win.
Innocent men in prison will be the norm.

To add to this.

All white men are guilty of anything!!

why are far more black men in prison then? In % terms.


It must be stupidity day
 

[Northallerton_Boro]

It's about to get a whole lot worse when Labour win.
Innocent men in prison will be the norm.

To add to this.

All white men are guilty of anything!!

why are far more black men in prison then? In % terms.


It must be stupidity day
 

I just meant in todays society its almost as if you have to apologise for being a white straight male

[Blott]

It's about to get a whole lot worse when Labour win.
Innocent men in prison will be the norm.

To add to this.

All white men are guilty of anything!!

why are far more black men in prison then? In % terms.


It must be stupidity day
 

I just meant in todays society its almost as if you have to apologise for being a white straight male

I agree on that. It's a bit like not being gay, it's illegal.

[rutters]

Specialist suites for alleged victims
Specialist officers for alleged victims
Specialist investigators for alleged victims
Targets for charging
Targets for conviction
Withholding of evidence discrediting alleged victim
Withholding of evidence exonerating alleged perpetrator
Specialist 'training' for Juries
Specialist 'training' for Judges
Specialist rape courts
Plaintiff allowed to record testimony
Plaintiff excused cross-examination
Juryless trials
Lowering of evidential thresholds
Conviction by testimony only

If that's not enough for you, go check-out Anneliese Dodds's or Vera Baird's twitter feeds.

Careful with those ball bearings.

Where is it Labour policy to withhold information? The rest seems common sense to me.

Did you make that up or is it Labour policy? Starter is a top top solicitor Barrister. Starmer became a barrister in 1987 at the Middle Temple, becoming a bencher there in 2009. He served as a legal officer for the campaign group Liberty until 1990. He was a member of Doughty Street Chambers from 1990 onwards, primarily working on human rights issues.

As for Vera Baird her opinions are hers not mine.

You are defending stupidity.

If you think that the law shouldn't treat both sides equally and be driven by targets rather than innocence then I hope you're not a lawyer.
 
https://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/feb/03/former-director-public-prosecutions-victims-law-keir-starmer

'Starmer promised that the case would be a "watershed", and pledged to rewrite guidelines forcing the police to believe victims'

https://www.policeprofessional.com/news/new-safeguards-to-be-introduced-to-prevent-digital-strip-search-of-rape-victims/

'"It has become practically routine for rape complainants to face intrusive and excessive demands for personal data from their electronic devices'

https://www.bsblaw.co.uk/blog/y1ki1cx5jzxoaiwp48kegwc04ukcct

Liam Allen would be in prison if Vera had got her way earlier.

[BoroRedKen]

Read anything by Iman Zayna.

Its her case that is putting the boot up GMP.

Horrific story. The lass deserves justice.

[Poolielad]

I am sure I have just seen that this guy cant claim any compo.

[BoroRedKen]

I am sure I have just seen that this guy cant claim any compo.

Hope you misread that Poolie.

The fact the appeal committee have twice knocked the same evidence back that got him released after the 3rd attempt should be enough to pay the guy up.

[Blott]

Specialist suites for alleged victims
Specialist officers for alleged victims
Specialist investigators for alleged victims
Targets for charging
Targets for conviction
Withholding of evidence discrediting alleged victim
Withholding of evidence exonerating alleged perpetrator
Specialist 'training' for Juries
Specialist 'training' for Judges
Specialist rape courts
Plaintiff allowed to record testimony
Plaintiff excused cross-examination
Juryless trials
Lowering of evidential thresholds
Conviction by testimony only

If that's not enough for you, go check-out Anneliese Dodds's or Vera Baird's twitter feeds.

Careful with those ball bearings.

Where is it Labour policy to withhold information? The rest seems common sense to me.

Did you make that up or is it Labour policy? Starter is a top top solicitor Barrister. Starmer became a barrister in 1987 at the Middle Temple, becoming a bencher there in 2009. He served as a legal officer for the campaign group Liberty until 1990. He was a member of Doughty Street Chambers from 1990 onwards, primarily working on human rights issues.

As for Vera Baird her opinions are hers not mine.

You are defending stupidity.

If you think that the law shouldn't treat both sides equally and be driven by targets rather than innocence then I hope you're not a lawyer.
 
https://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/feb/03/former-director-public-prosecutions-victims-law-keir-starmer

'Starmer promised that the case would be a "watershed", and pledged to rewrite guidelines forcing the police to believe victims'

https://www.policeprofessional.com/news/new-safeguards-to-be-introduced-to-prevent-digital-strip-search-of-rape-victims/

'"It has become practically routine for rape complainants to face intrusive and excessive demands for personal data from their electronic devices'

https://www.bsblaw.co.uk/blog/y1ki1cx5jzxoaiwp48kegwc04ukcct

Liam Allen would be in prison if Vera had got her way earlier.

so you made that list up.


I completely believe everyone should be treated equally.

Not once in the far too many times I was in front of a judge were they anything but fair.

[rutters]

Could you be more specific please?

[Blott]

No. I was a prosecuting witness in a few crown court and at least 10 magistrate fraud cases.


One was a very well known individual at the time, he was found not guilty. He was given £1 in compensation and told to pay his own costs. Judges know the score.

[rutters]

I meant from the list.

[Poolielad]

Just read this about this chap... I mentioned something similiar the other day!!!



So on a brief reading of this story it seems that accurate DNA evidence has seen him proved innocent, yet if (and it is an if) he gets any compensation then he may well lose a big chunk of it down to a 'board and lodging' fee!! This is a calculation made to how much money he's saved in rent and TV licenses etc because he's been in prison. I mean WTF.

This is wrong on so many counts that I don't know where to start - but as a start, how about billing all of the many rightly convicted criminals board and lodge?

At present, found guilty/do porridge/come out/no charge.
At present, found guilty but proved wrongly convicted/falsely do porridge/come out/charge.

[Blott]

Just read this about this chap... I mentioned something similiar the other day!!!



So on a brief reading of this story it seems that accurate DNA evidence has seen him proved innocent, yet if (and it is an if) he gets any compensation then he may well lose a big chunk of it down to a 'board and lodging' fee!! This is a calculation made to how much money he's saved in rent and TV licenses etc because he's been in prison. I mean WTF.

This is wrong on so many counts that I don't know where to start - but as a start, how about billing all of the many rightly convicted criminals board and lodge?

At present, found guilty/do porridge/come out/no charge.
At present, found guilty but proved wrongly convicted/falsely do porridge/come out/charge.

madness