This is one of the best explanations of Ukraine

Started by ZiEgE, November 12, 2024, 01:39:51 PM

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ZiEgE

Jeffery Sachs explains how the US and Nato provoked the wat in Ukraine and then blocked any peace settlements.

600,000 dead Ukrainians since Boris Johnson blocked the Ukraine neutrality deal.



If you want the truth - here it is.


In With the Lurpak

Love to see some one post it on the End.


Great little clip explaining everything beautifully  :cheers:


Our so called own governments have done to us all and this country a lot more damage than Putin has ever even dreamed of doing.

newyddion

Sounds like the same sort of thing in Gaza.. big American influence preventing a peaceful solution.

In With the Lurpak

Quote from: newyddion on November 12, 2024, 09:37:22 PMSounds like the same sort of thing in Gaza.. big American influence preventing a peaceful solution.



Thing is America were the main cause of the Ukraine they not preventing anything they escalated from the off. read about Victoria Newland.

Doyle1979

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He's an odd fella Sachs I read stuff of his years ago and he's kind of taken money from various regimes and faught to keep himself prevalent by any means necessary over the years. He says what he thinks will keep him relevant. There's some truth in what he says in that video but there's a lot he fails to address. He used to be a full on communist/marxist taking money from Yeltsin and had his fingers in Bolivia. He lost a lot of his respect in the economic world for taking money and changing his stance when it suited him. Had an odd relationship with Bono too involving himself in African debt issues. He's basically spent his whole career taking whatever side he can to criticise the US and changes his views constantly. He was fully in Boris Yeltsin's pocket as a communist anti American for years. He's a bit of a false prophet and con man. As Yektsin's advisor he is widely regarded as the reason why Russias economy collapsed into the state it did because of his advice on taking them from a communist to capitalist society.,

In With the Lurpak

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In With the Lurpak

Quote from: Doyle1979 on November 13, 2024, 04:53:43 AMHe says what he thinks will keep him relevant. There's some truth in what he says in that video




Ill come back later on after work ok. Let me know what part he is telling lies about above because you say some truth, I think he is telling the whole truth. Ill av a look later on to see 

Doyle1979

Quote from: In With the Lurpak on November 13, 2024, 06:09:45 AM
Quote from: Doyle1979 on November 13, 2024, 04:53:43 AMHe says what he thinks will keep him relevant. There's some truth in what he says in that video




Ill come back later on after work ok. Let me know what part he is telling lies about above because you say some truth, I think he is telling the whole truth. Ill av a look later on to see 

Didn't say he told any lies just that it's not taken into account many other factors. He's explained correctly certain parts. It's much more complex than that. He takes money from anyone to attack his own country

Doyle1979

Read up on him you'll end up going down a rabbit hole. Trump doesn't trust Putin he knows he's a threat but as a strong leader he knows he has to keep his enemy close. Trump is t daft but he can't say Putin is an enemy as he wa ts to keep him under control so pretends to be his friend. Trump knows what he is he's just playing clever game with him

ZiEgE

Typical lefty ploy that isn't it? Play the man and not the ball.

Pretty much everything he says on that video is verifiable.

From the memorandum of conversation between James Baker and Gorbachev. To the expansion of Nato. To the colour revolution in Ukraine and overthrow of a democratically elected President, to the intervention of Johnson to thwart a peace deal.

All of it, every last word, is true.

The problem is, to the brainwashed masses its difficult to accept the truth. It creates cognitive dissonance, which uncomfortable. And if they can't attack the message then they must attack the source.

How can I accept that the EU, NATO and the western intelligence agencies created this war when I've had the misinformation of Putin being this evil psychopathic dictator hell bent on genociding Ukrainians drilled into my brain?

Just as a quick aside, the correlation between those who accepted the Covid lies and those who accept the Ukraine lies is stunning to witness.

I'm not saying it's universal, but every person I know who queued up for a Covid vaccine also believes the Ukraine narrative 100%.