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[spottygiraffe (Moderator)]

quote author=spottygiraffe (Moderator) link=msg=177332 date=1724619068]
What about the vast numbers of rapes that go unreported? Or the ones that can't be proven?

The bottom line is, false reporting of rape is less of an issue than actual rape.

I don't understand your point.

We cannot "believe all women" for the exact same reason we cannot "believe all men".

People lie.

You seem to be suggesting that because there are fewer false accusations rather than actual rapes that we should forgo judge and jury and just put men in jail based on a single accusation.

That's preposterous.

That is some conclusion you've jumped to there little guy!

That is absolutely not what I'm saying, no.

[ZiEgE]

I didn't jump to any conclusions SG, read my post again.

I started with 'I don't understand your point' and then I said 'you seem to be suggesting....'.

I'm not here to pick a fight with you.

[spottygiraffe (Moderator)]

I didn't jump to any conclusions SG, read my post again.

I started with 'I don't understand your point' and then I said 'you seem to be suggesting....'.

I'm not here to pick a fight with you.

You concluded that I seem to be suggesting all men accused of rape should go to jail. Read your post again.

I'm not fighting, apologies if coming across that way. Just extremely bored of trying to constantly justify why I care about violence against women, and everything I say getting picked apart, and some people seeming to purposely miss the point of what I'm saying. (Not saying this is what you are doing)

[In With the Lurpak]

I Don't like violence against women. Seen it one time what happened the week later shocked me more than the violence week earlier . Id been down Stockton met a lass it was now nightclub kicking out time she said come back to mine but be quite me mam n dad are in bed asleep .. 3 Am we go inside I sit in the front room she disappears upstairs, I am sat there and this scream comes out from her to tell me to get up the stairs fast so I goes up she's in the mothers/fathers bed room the father is on top sat astride the mother full force punching her in the face I mean hitting her like a bloke hits another bloke, blood all over screams the lot. I pulled him off , the mother clambered to her feet and ran for it with daughter down stairs , I am now face to face still with him he puts his hands in air asks who I am and I Tell him I came back with Lisa the daughter, he says sorry for what happened . Lisa runs back up to tell me to leave so I do , the night of bucking was well off the cards by now .. I go home .

One week later I see the same mother / father sat in Stockton pub drinking laughing like nothing had ever happened . Told a lad all about it who knows them well he says its a regular thing with em.

Never went back or seen Lisa anymore after that like. Fucking mad house.     

[TerryCochranesSocks]

I was off work on Friday, took the day off to strim thistles (don't ask)
I only post at work because I can't remember my password to log on from home.
Anyway, this means that I missed whatever it was that resulted in this drama.

Is there an executive summary available for the absent, the infirm or the perpetually confused?
Thanks

[Blott]

I was off work on Friday, took the day off to strim thistles (don't ask)
I only post at work because I can't remember my password to log on from home.
Anyway, this means that I missed whatever it was that resulted in this drama.

Is there an executive summary available for the absent, the infirm or the perpetually confused?
Thanks

as you mentioned thistles. Is there a way for getting rid of them, with digging for days?

[TerryCochranesSocks]

I was off work on Friday, took the day off to strim thistles (don't ask)
I only post at work because I can't remember my password to log on from home.
Anyway, this means that I missed whatever it was that resulted in this drama.

Is there an executive summary available for the absent, the infirm or the perpetually confused?
Thanks

as you mentioned thistles. Is there a way for getting rid of them, with digging for days?

If you find a way let me know.

[Blott]

I was off work on Friday, took the day off to strim thistles (don't ask)
I only post at work because I can't remember my password to log on from home.
Anyway, this means that I missed whatever it was that resulted in this drama.

Is there an executive summary available for the absent, the infirm or the perpetually confused?
Thanks

as you mentioned thistles. Is there a way for getting rid of them, with digging for days?

If you find a way let me know.

they are a nightmare. And why are they all behind plants with thorns?

I hate gardening but do it, badly.

[rutters]

"Don't let your anger cloud your judgement" feels slightly patronising to be honest. My judgement absolutely isn't clouded.

In my opinion, being raped is absolutely worse than being accused of being a rapist. Not saying it isn't absolutely horrific to be accused of rape if you haven't done anything, I'm sure it is.

When I say rape is more of an issue, I mean the number of people being raped vs. The number of people being falsely accused.

But you should be more worried about men raping than women false reporting.

You are clearly more emotionally invested in false reporting as you probably think you have more chance of being falsely accused than being raped, but statistically it's the other way around.

I bet you think Mason Greenwood was innocent as well because he didn't get found guilty?

We've already established that you have no idea of the extent of either and until we treat both sides equally, we never will.

One Met Police deputy commissioner whistleblower stated that 70% of rape complaints were actually regretful sex. It was decided that he was blowing the wrong whistle.

You are correct in claiming rape and false rape accusations have different implications. Women (only women in the UK) remain anonymous and with support can make a full recovery from the truly traumatic experience however a falsely accused man (and only men) are splashed over national media and their lives will never be the same again (if they can bear to continue their lives).

[rutters]

Did you not understand the research then? #slow

Thanks for the 9 year old article, must be a real cause for concern!

The'research' by the OU Feminist (with 391 X followers) claims that only 4% of False Allegations are actually false so by this criteria less than 1% of reported rapes actually happened. She even states herself that most false allegations are dismissed as 'no crimes' therefore not recorded as any particular category of crime.

The article was to demonstrate that even admitted false allegations aren't charged. For your claim to have any equivalence you'd have to show me an example of a man who, having admitted rape, wasn't charged or prosecuted and remained anonymous.

My original point remains: you are a false accuser and are entrusted to moderate a forum on which you made the false accusation.

#StillaFalseAccuser

Kind of what I was getting at on the other thread.
They can say only 4% of accusations are false because they'll accept a women regretting having sex with a man as a rape. Or a woman getting drunk and not remembering if she consented as rape.

The real number will undoubtedly be much higher.

But all that said, it doesn't devalue or discredit that real sexual predators are out there and must face justice.

What about the vast numbers of rapes that go unreported? Or the ones that can't be proven?

The bottom line is, false reporting of rape is less of an issue than actual rape.

That's not based on fact and is more evidence of your personal prejudice because you are one of the false accusers.

[rutters]

You are emotionally involved though as you respond to almost everything I say regarding this issue.

A lot can be said for men who go out of their way to argue that rape isn't as bad as being falsely accused of rape, and violence against women and girls isn't an issue. Strange hill to die on if you ask me.

You lot cry about "what aboutism" but any time I bring up violence against women: "WHAT ABOUT MEN!" I mention rape "WHAT ABOUT MEN WHO ARE FALSELY ACCUSED!" It's embarrassing.

Entitlement and female exceptionalism just reached a new high.

[rutters]

I didn't jump to any conclusions SG, read my post again.

I started with 'I don't understand your point' and then I said 'you seem to be suggesting....'.

I'm not here to pick a fight with you.

You concluded that I seem to be suggesting all men accused of rape should go to jail. Read your post again.

I'm not fighting, apologies if coming across that way. Just extremely bored of trying to constantly justify why I care about violence against women, and everything I say getting picked apart, and some people seeming to purposely miss the point of what I'm saying. (Not saying this is what you are doing)

Once again you've perfectly exemplified the issue we face. You care about vawg* as does UK policing and the entire CJS.
So men are naturally conclude 'we the fuck should we care about you'?
YOU are the problem (and still a false accuser).