Criticising players after a game

Started by Francks left peg, August 05, 2023, 08:19:01 PM

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Francks left peg

Players will no doubt look on forums after a game. Critising those who haven't played their best for all to see, thoughts?

Francks left peg

May I add, particularly new players.

Sir Digby

You don't have to say new players. Can see Crooks being the new whipping boy. Playing as a striker.
I know the transfer window is still open, but we shouldn't be sticking players in out of position.
Gonna end up playing catch up already.
Think we might have been a bit spoilt by a few of the gems we had on loan last season.

erimus74

Quote from: Francks left peg on August 05, 2023, 08:19:01 PMPlayers will no doubt look on forums after a game. Critising those who haven't played their best for all to see, thoughts?


Good shout Frank, I was guilty of that in my assessment earlier on, probably down to frustration more than anything

I've always told myself to give it 24 hours before posting after a defeat, didnt wait more than 3

I still hope we bring in a 1st team CF & a left back, give Coulson a bit more time to find his feet, see how he is after 5, 6, 7 games, I really liked him under Woodgate & thought he was unlucky to lose & when he drifted from club to club I just expected him to move on

He started ok but for me looked weak at times & lost the ball a few times when their player was a bit stronger, but he kept going, didnt hide so a good side of him there, tactical move seen Silvera replace him who done exceptional well & on another day could have scored

Ural Quntz (Moderator)

The depressing thing is that Crooks and Barlaser were probably playing their best!

Rotherham had our eyes with these two who have rarely performed.


Francks left peg

Quote from: Sir Digby on August 05, 2023, 08:32:45 PMYou don't have to say new players. Can see Crooks being the new whipping boy. Playing as a striker.
I know the transfer window is still open, but we shouldn't be sticking players in out of position.
Gonna end up playing catch up already.
Think we might have been a bit spoilt by a few of the gems we had on loan last season.

the reason I said new, is because they seem to have more judgements based on them. For example Rogers has got some Pelters today otr and it's his first proper game. not only that, Barlaser has had injuries galore no chance to be match fit and still getting Pelters. I could be wrong but we will see.

tunstall

I doubt very much they read the fans forums

And anyway fuck em

They get paid plenty and it might motivate them to be less shit

Ural Quntz (Moderator)

Quote from: tunstall on August 05, 2023, 11:13:51 PMI doubt very much they read the fans forums

And anyway fuck em

They get paid plenty and it might motivate them to be less shit

Sounds like a hell of a team talk that

Look lads just try and be less shit will you?

:alf:

LIDDLE_TOWERS999

Quote from: Ural Quntz (Moderator) on August 05, 2023, 09:03:37 PMThe depressing thing is that Crooks and Barlaser were probably playing their best!

Rotherham had our eyes with these two who have rarely performed.



BARLASER COULDN'T PASS FUCKING WIND  😡😡😡

AND HOW CROOKS STAYED ON SO LONG IS FUCKING BEYOND ME 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

HE SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT COBURN ON WHEN SILVERA CAME ON... ONLY DEING FORSS AND SILVERA COULD HOLD THEIR HEADS UP... THE REST WHERE UTTER SHITE 😡😡😡
GET WELL SOON STEVE G

Mike Peeler

I will reserve serious judgment once the window is shut - the bench if most or all stay will see us stronger but we are missing a couple of much-needed signings or it could be a battle just to make the top 10 never mind the top 6.

I think they have players in mind loan or cash. Otherwise, we would have filled the left-back/coulson role with at least another body. So rather than take anybody we are waiting if you are like. Well, I hope thats the case for the missing 2 or 3 players I think we need.

borope

These Foriums are here for us to have an opinion. We cant worry about who might be looking in.

Artie Fufkin

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Quote from: LIDDLE_TOWERS999 (MODERATOR) on August 06, 2023, 05:27:49 AM
Quote from: Ural Quntz (Moderator) on August 05, 2023, 09:03:37 PMThe depressing thing is that Crooks and Barlaser were probably playing their best!

Rotherham had our eyes with these two who have rarely performed.



BARLASER COULDN'T PASS FUCKING WIND  😡😡😡

AND HOW CROOKS STAYED ON SO LONG IS FUCKING BEYOND ME 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

HE SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT COBURN ON WHEN SILVERA CAME ON... ONLY DEING FORSS AND SILVERA COULD HOLD THEIR HEADS UP... THE REST WHERE UTTER SHITE 😡😡😡

Forss??!! He was fucking gash Lidds, always cuts in onto his left but his left foot is worse than my left hand ffs

LIDDLE_TOWERS999

Quote from: Artie Fufkin on August 06, 2023, 09:28:12 AM
Quote from: LIDDLE_TOWERS999 (MODERATOR) on August 06, 2023, 05:27:49 AM
Quote from: Ural Quntz (Moderator) on August 05, 2023, 09:03:37 PMThe depressing thing is that Crooks and Barlaser were probably playing their best!

Rotherham had our eyes with these two who have rarely performed.



BARLASER COULDN'T PASS FUCKING WIND  😡😡😡

AND HOW CROOKS STAYED ON SO LONG IS FUCKING BEYOND ME 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

HE SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT COBURN ON WHEN SILVERA CAME ON... ONLY DEING FORSS AND SILVERA COULD HOLD THEIR HEADS UP... THE REST WHERE UTTER SHITE 😡😡😡

Forss??!! He was fucking gash Lidds, always cuts in onto his left but his left foot is worse than my left hand ffs

FORSS TRIED TO TAKE THE GAME TOO THEM... HE WAS UNLUCKY WITH A FEW SHOTS... BUT APART FROM HIM AND SILVERA RUNNING AT THEIR DEFENCE WE OFFERED NOTHING 👎😡😡😡👎
GET WELL SOON STEVE G

Artie Fufkin

Quote from: LIDDLE_TOWERS999 (MODERATOR) on August 06, 2023, 09:31:51 AM
Quote from: Artie Fufkin on August 06, 2023, 09:28:12 AM
Quote from: LIDDLE_TOWERS999 (MODERATOR) on August 06, 2023, 05:27:49 AM
Quote from: Ural Quntz (Moderator) on August 05, 2023, 09:03:37 PMThe depressing thing is that Crooks and Barlaser were probably playing their best!

Rotherham had our eyes with these two who have rarely performed.



BARLASER COULDN'T PASS FUCKING WIND  😡😡😡

AND HOW CROOKS STAYED ON SO LONG IS FUCKING BEYOND ME 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

HE SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT COBURN ON WHEN SILVERA CAME ON... ONLY DEING FORSS AND SILVERA COULD HOLD THEIR HEADS UP... THE REST WHERE UTTER SHITE 😡😡😡

Forss??!! He was fucking gash Lidds, always cuts in onto his left but his left foot is worse than my left hand ffs

FORSS TRIED TO TAKE THE GAME TOO THEM... HE WAS UNLUCKY WITH A FEW SHOTS... BUT APART FROM HIM AND SILVERA RUNNING AT THEIR DEFENCE WE OFFERED NOTHING 👎😡😡😡👎

Agree with silvera, looked decent and hungry as you'd expect a young 'un to do on debut. He's shorter than you though so not much of a presence in the box, but he looks like he'll bang plenty of crosses in, we just need some fucker on the end of them

Smoggers51

I felt for Crooks yesterday ,he was played out of position and In my mind at least tried to give it a go.Forss wasn't at his best .Thought Silvera is one to watch,I like his pace and positional sense at times.Don't know if anyone else felt it but at times there seemed to be a lack of awareness and where players where at times{ie there was a distinct lack of overlapping at times to help out other players once a pass had been made}

Blott

I just checked the stats. We battered them. But there again.

markmywords

Quote from: Smoggers51 on August 06, 2023, 11:25:19 AMI felt for Crooks yesterday ,he was played out of position and In my mind at least tried to give it a go.Forss wasn't at his best .Thought Silvera is one to watch,I like his pace and positional sense at times.Don't know if anyone else felt it but at times there seemed to be a lack of awareness and where players where at times{ie there was a distinct lack of overlapping at times to help out other players once a pass had been made}
I'm struggling to see where Crooks best position actually is, because he is poor wherever he plays. As for Barlaser he was kept out of the Rotherham team by Lewis Wing!! That's how good he is. I couldn't believe the clamour to get him signed when it was revealed we were in for him

Mike Peeler

Quote from: Smoggers51 on August 06, 2023, 11:25:19 AMI felt for Crooks yesterday ,he was played out of position and In my mind at least tried to give it a go.Forss wasn't at his best .Thought Silvera is one to watch,I like his pace and positional sense at times.Don't know if anyone else felt it but at times there seemed to be a lack of awareness and where players where at times{ie there was a distinct lack of overlapping at times to help out other players once a pass had been made}


Crooks is at best a utility squad player that can pop up with the odd crucial goal and the fact he can play around the park probably got him the new deal - he will, be on peanuts in footballing terms, and any next move for him will be out of the championship when it happens

Francks left peg

Quote from: markmywords on August 06, 2023, 03:20:42 PM
Quote from: Smoggers51 on August 06, 2023, 11:25:19 AMI felt for Crooks yesterday ,he was played out of position and In my mind at least tried to give it a go.Forss wasn't at his best .Thought Silvera is one to watch,I like his pace and positional sense at times.Don't know if anyone else felt it but at times there seemed to be a lack of awareness and where players where at times{ie there was a distinct lack of overlapping at times to help out other players once a pass had been made}
I'm struggling to see where Crooks best position actually is, because he is poor wherever he plays. As for Barlaser he was kept out of the Rotherham team by Lewis Wing!! That's how good he is. I couldn't believe the clamour to get him signed when it was revealed we were in for him

Kept out by Wing? Wasn't he there player of the season?

Francks left peg

Quote from: Mike Peeler on August 06, 2023, 03:36:54 PM
Quote from: Smoggers51 on August 06, 2023, 11:25:19 AMI felt for Crooks yesterday ,he was played out of position and In my mind at least tried to give it a go.Forss wasn't at his best .Thought Silvera is one to watch,I like his pace and positional sense at times.Don't know if anyone else felt it but at times there seemed to be a lack of awareness and where players where at times{ie there was a distinct lack of overlapping at times to help out other players once a pass had been made}


Crooks is at best a utility squad player that can pop up with the odd crucial goal and the fact he can play around the park probably got him the new deal - he will, be on peanuts in footballing terms, and any next move for him will be out of the championship when it happens

Crooks did well under Warnock

Mike Peeler

Quote from: Francks left peg on August 06, 2023, 06:44:57 PM
Quote from: Mike Peeler on August 06, 2023, 03:36:54 PM
Quote from: Smoggers51 on August 06, 2023, 11:25:19 AMI felt for Crooks yesterday ,he was played out of position and In my mind at least tried to give it a go.Forss wasn't at his best .Thought Silvera is one to watch,I like his pace and positional sense at times.Don't know if anyone else felt it but at times there seemed to be a lack of awareness and where players where at times{ie there was a distinct lack of overlapping at times to help out other players once a pass had been made}


Crooks is at best a utility squad player that can pop up with the odd crucial goal and the fact he can play around the park probably got him the new deal - he will, be on peanuts in footballing terms, and any next move for him will be out of the championship when it happens

Crooks did well under Warnock

I will give you that Franck and it also goes to show some players are better under different managers through a style of play. He does not suit free flowing fast-paced football - he is without doubt a 100% trier and so is worth something over any lazy bastards out there. Not of a high champo level IMO

TerryCochranesSocks

Quote from: markmywords on August 06, 2023, 03:20:42 PMAs for Barlaser he was kept out of the Rotherham team by Lewis Wing!! That's how good he is. I couldn't believe the clamour to get him signed when it was revealed we were in for him

In the season that Wing was at Rotherham Barlaser started 33 Championship games, Wing started 20.


Francks left peg

I must admit, if anyone has criticised me and berated me at work, it's never made me work harder. Why is it different for players?

Ural Quntz (Moderator)

Quote from: Francks left peg on August 07, 2023, 05:04:51 PMI must admit, if anyone has criticised me and berated me at work, it's never made me work harder. Why is it different for players?

There is such a thing as constructive feedback :fuckoff:

Like - Look Barlaser we made a big mistake signing you so its probably better if you fuck off back to Rotherham.

 :fuckoff: