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Started by Kippers, August 14, 2024, 02:40:37 PM

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Kippers

Chancellor wants to raise £9b for a lower Thames crossing !

 Thought these cunts said they were going to be different ?

Blott

Is that private cash or mine and yours?


Kippers

Quote from: Blott on August 14, 2024, 02:42:15 PMIs that private cash or mine and yours?



Both no doubt.

Blott

So you don't know. Why doesn't she ask Houchen. He knows how to do it.

Kippers

What the fuck is wrong with you pal ?

Just trolling your way through the day. ?

TerryCochranesSocks

Quote from: Blott on August 14, 2024, 02:42:15 PMIs that private cash or mine and yours?



Reported to be considering PFI (Tony will be involved!)

Blott

I am all for PFI, and any Tory should be.

Passing the risk to a third party,no need to use public funds up front.

Carillon went tits up as did a number of PFI companies, they weren't making enough cash. A good decision by Tony.

Kippers

Quote from: Blott on August 14, 2024, 02:59:38 PMI am all for PFI, and any Tory should be.

Passing the risk to a third party,no need to use public funds up front.

Carillon went tits up as did a number of PFI companies, they weren't making enough cash. A good decision by Tony.

Yeah, the Tories inherited that NHS PFI debt on the never never until Boris paid it off. I would steer clear.

Blott

Quote from: Kippers on August 14, 2024, 03:09:30 PM
Quote from: Blott on August 14, 2024, 02:59:38 PMI am all for PFI, and any Tory should be.

Passing the risk to a third party,no need to use public funds up front.

Carillon went tits up as did a number of PFI companies, they weren't making enough cash. A good decision by Tony.

Yeah, the Tories inherited that NHS PFI debt on the never never until Boris paid it off. I would steer clear.
The Private Finance Initiative (PFI) was set up in 1991 under John Major & Norman Lamont - with a young David Cameron as his adviser.

TerryCochranesSocks

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Too Much Perspective

Quote from: Blott on August 14, 2024, 02:59:38 PMI am all for PFI, and any Tory should be.

Passing the risk to a third party,no need to use public funds up front.

Carillon went tits up as did a number of PFI companies, they weren't making enough cash. A good decision by Tony.
Carillion went bust because it was badly run - bidding on too many risky projects at too low a price. The margins were stupidly low.
The Tories invented it, but Labour went all-in on PFI last time around. Many of those contracts are still live - and public bodies are still wasting billions on facilities management because they're locked into them.
It's like buying your furniture from Bright House. 

Kippers

So my initial post was to highlight the continued massive investment in London compared to basically anywhere else in the UK.
  I thought the labour mantra was change ?

TerryCochranesSocks

Quote from: Kippers on August 14, 2024, 03:18:57 PMSo my initial post was to highlight the continued massive investment in London compared to basically anywhere else in the UK.
  I thought the labour mantra was change ?

Well to be fair they seem to be trying to turn us into a communist dictatorship within two months of getting the gig so, you know, they're busy!

LIDDLE_TOWERS999

CONTRACTS GALORE AND BROWN ENVELOPES EVERYWHERE  :rav:  :winston:  :wankers:
GET WELL SOON STEVE G

Blott

So it wasn't the Tories. Ok the sun does go around the moon.


As it happens as I said I agree with it.

You build a house. You borrow money to build it, you pay interest on it, insure it and over time you refurbish it. And then when the mortgage is paid you own it. The total you pay back on a £125,000 mortgage over 25 years at 5 pc is close to £225,000..

A hospital is the same if you use public money to do it or PFI, apart from the additional margin you give to refurbish and the risk.

Blott

Carillion went bust because it was badly run - bidding on too many risky projects at too low a price. The margins were stupidly low.

Da da

Exactly

TerryCochranesSocks

Read the link I sent

Ural Quntz

Quote from: Kippers on August 14, 2024, 02:53:07 PMWhat the fuck is wrong with you pal ?

Just trolling your way through the day. ?

'Bout right


Blott

Funnily enough I was accused over the road of the same thing.

Argue against the mob and you are a troll.

TerryCochranesSocks

It's not a mob you're disagreeing with, it's facts.

Blott

Quote from: TerryCochranesSocks on August 14, 2024, 04:37:20 PMIt's not a mob you're disagreeing with, it's facts.
that we interpret differently. You're wrong and I am right.