2 league games in, one win on the opening day of the season beating Swansea 1-0 we then followed that up with a fantastic 3-0 away win at Leeds in the 1st round of the league cup & then typical Boro we suffered a frustrating defeat at newly promoted Derby County in our first away league game
All 3 games we could & should have scored more goals
This coming Saturday we face Portsmouth for the first time on Teesside since the 6th August 2011 when both teams played out a 2-2 draw at the Riverside
Portsmouth sit in 15th place with 2 league draws, they lost at home to Millwall in the league cup
Hopefully Jekyll & Hide Boro can produce the form we showed against Swansea in the first half & the Leeds game & put Portsmouth to the sword & inflict their first league defeat of the season
Not too sure what's the latest on McGree, whether he starts or not, or even in the squad, top player for us but seems to be another player, along with Forss, who picks up knocks quite easy
Boro fans will see our newest arrival in Tommy Conway, think he'll start on the bench again
IMO, unless injuries, I will expect Carrick to stick with the following team Dieng, Ayling, VDB, Clarke, Engel, Morris, Hackney, Burgzorg, Azaz, ELL, Jones
Still think Dijksteel & Gilbert were/are unlucky to not feature in the first eleven
We've had some big wins at home to Portsmouth over the years, 7-3, 8-2, 5-1, 5-4, lets start the game with a bang, score early & go on to win the game comfortably
12/4/1925 – The first home fixture between both teams Boro 1 Pompey 1 – Saturdays fixture will be the 57th meeting between both teams on Teesside with the following:
Won - 31
Drew - 16
Lost - 9
For - 117
Against – 68
Home hat tricks & 4 goal haul
2nd January 1926 - Boro winning 7-3 when George Camsell scored his first 4 goal haul, the 5th time this has happened at home & the 5th different Boro player to score 4 goals at home in one game
6th November 1926 - Boro winning 4-1 when James McCelland scored his 3rd hat trick, the clubs 31st home HT, 35th at Ayresome Park & 16th different HT goalscorer to date
29th March 1939 - Boro winning 8-2 when Wilf Mannion scored his 1st hat trick, the clubs 51st home HT, 54th at Ayresome Park & 25th different HT goalscorer to date
23rd November 1946 - Boro drawing 3-3 when Wilf Mannion scored his 2nd hat trick, the clubs 55th home HT, 58th at Ayresome Park
Home penalties v Portsmouth
3/9/1949 – Peter McKennan the 34th different penalty goalscorer when he scored the clubs 89th home penalty in a 5-1 defeat
16/12/1950 – Wilf Mannion the 31st different penalty goalscorer when he scored the clubs 88th/89th home penalty in a 3-1 win – The 5th time we have scored two penalties in one game
1//3/1952 – Wilf Mannion the 31st different penalty goalscorer when he scored the clubs 89th home penalty in 2-1 win
3/5/1966 – Dicky Rooks became the 41st different penalty goalscorer when he scored the clubs 147th home penalty in a 5-2 win
7/3/1970 – John Hickton became the 43rd different penalty goalscorer when he scored the clubs 157th home penalty in a 2-1
26/2/1991 – Gary Parkinson became the 60th different penalty goalscorer when he scored the clubs 204th home penalty in a 2-1 defeat
2/10/2010 – Barry Robson became the 83rd different penalty goalscorer when he scored the clubs 247th home penalty in a 2-2 draw
Home debut v Portsmouth
2/1/1937 – Wilf Mannion drew 2-2
26/1/1938 – George Wardle drew 0-0 – 33rd player to only play the one game
3/2/1990 – Ian Baird won 2-0
Played for both teams
Joe, Joe, Joe Laidlaw played 125 games between 1968/1972 scoring, scoring 22 goals, after leaving the Boro he played for Carlisle & Doncaster then signing for Portsmouth in signed for Portsmouth in 1979
Mick Baxter played 138 games between 1981/1984 scoring, scoring 8 goals, he was offered a new contract at the Boro, on reduced terms turned down our offer & signed for Portsmouth, unfortunately, due to illness Mick Baxter never played a first team game for Pompey
Mick Kennedy played 79 games between 1982/1984 scoring, scoring 10 goals & signed for Portsmouth in the summer of 1985
Paul Sugrue played 81 games between 1982/1985 scoring, scoring 5 goals, & signed for Portsmouth in the summer of 1984
Paul Merson signed for the Boro in 1997, playing 48 games, scoring 12 goals, left the Boro in 1998, signing for Portsmouth in 2002 from Villa
Yakubu signed for the Boro from Portsmouth in the summer of 2005 going on to play 73 games, scoring 25 goals, left the Boro in 2007
Gary O'Neil signed for the Boro in the summer of 2007 from Portsmouth playing 109 games, scoring 10 goals, left the Boro in 2011
Christian Burgess played only the one game for the Boro in 2013, signed for Pompey in the summer of 2014 - The 59th player to only play one game for the Boro
David Nugent signed for the Boro from Portsmouth in the summer of 2015/2017 going on to play 42 games, scoring 8 goals
Matt Clarke played for Portsmouth between 2015/19 & following his transfer to Brighton he signed for the Boro in 2022, a big part & important member of our back 4 - Remember the good old days when a player would play against his former club & was given the captains armband for the game
Sammy Silvers is currently on a season long loan at Portsmouth & will be unable to play against us at the weekend
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Brilliant mate, just brilliant.
:bigjack
BORO 3 POMPEY 1
LATH
LATH
CONWAY
You've seen the rest well here's the best 👍👍
3-0 Boro
Boro 4 - 0 Pompey
2-0 , Azaz and Lath
Who remembers Barry Robson fucking leathering Mokoena in the box with a right hook and it cost us 3 points :rudi:
Quote from: Ayton Mews on August 22, 2024, 10:18:17 AM2-0 , Azaz and Lath
Azaz off the mark, unlucky away to Derby
Boro 4-2 Pompey
Lath Conway and Azaz x2
1-1
Tight one this in my opinion. They'll do one of those low block thingymajigs so we'll have to break them down
Boro 7 Pompey 1
All hail the E man is back brilliant writing as usual
2-0 mighty Reds
Quote from: teamboro on August 22, 2024, 11:29:20 AMAll hail the E man is back brilliant writing as usual
2-0 mighty Reds
Cheers TT, unfortunately cant do the next two fixtures, hospital beckons, 👍
1969 - the year of the second best Boro chant ever
'Oh we paid twenty thousand for Kinnell, forkinnell
Oh we paid 20 thousand for Kinnell, forkinnell!'
Best ever?
One Job on Teesside
Theres only one job on Teesside
2-0 to the Mighty Boro
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Looks like vdb out now.
So Ayling at CB and Dijk in at RB?
At last. Pig Iron for 12.30, Central say 01.00, pint with the wheelies in Square 1 at 1.20 ish, then a few at the ground.
Match and taxi home. Followed by Prawn Chow Mein from Colin's.
Thank you god.
Quote from: rutters on August 22, 2024, 01:03:46 PMLooks like vdb out now.
So Ayling at CB and Dijk in at RB?
Bummer, 😔
Quote from: Blott on August 22, 2024, 01:18:30 PMQuote from: erimus74 on August 22, 2024, 01:14:02 PMQuote from: rutters on August 22, 2024, 01:03:46 PMLooks like vdb out now.
So Ayling at CB and Dijk in at RB?
Bummer, 😔
is Fry and Lenihan injured too?
Thought Ken was ok just lack of fitness
If he is then we are carrying on from last season
McGree - sicknote
Forss - sicknote
Lenihan - sicknote
Fry - sicknote
Banguara - sicknote
VDB
Smith
Howson
Not looking good, 😔
We should cobtinue to see young lad Hunt on the bench, maybe even take some part in the game
Quote from: erimus74 on August 22, 2024, 01:24:51 PMQuote from: Blott on August 22, 2024, 01:18:30 PMQuote from: erimus74 on August 22, 2024, 01:14:02 PMQuote from: rutters on August 22, 2024, 01:03:46 PMLooks like vdb out now.
So Ayling at CB and Dijk in at RB?
Bummer, 😔
is Fry and Lenihan injured too?
Thought Ken was ok just lack of fitness
If he is then we are carrying on from last season
McGree - sicknote
Forss - sicknote
Lenihan - sicknote
Fry - sicknote
Banguara - sicknote
VDB
Smith
Howson
Not looking good, 😔
We do seem to get an unusually high number of injuries. Hmmm.
For some reason I hate these cunts
Boro 3 them cunts 0
I fear a score draw, 2-2 maybe.
Another Boro Pompey blast from the past
FAC 3rd round replay with Boro winning 3-0 goalscorers, David Armstrong,Terry Cochrane & Craig Johnston
C'mon Boro!
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Morning Erimus, great football thread on here - makes a change. Remember quite vividly some of the covers from the past
Heart says a win today, head says a draw. No easy game is this. They have secured a couple of points against decent opposition.
On another note, hope the book sales are going well, pal.You certainly deserve decent sales.
I'm going 2-1 the mighty Boro
Quote from: Nosmo-King on August 24, 2024, 09:28:45 AMMorning Erimus, great football thread on here - makes a change. Remember quite vividly some of the covers from the past
Heart says a win today, head says a draw. No easy game is this. They have secured a couple of points against decent opposition.
On another note, hope the book sales are going well, pal.You certainly deserve decent sales.
Morning Nosmo-king & cheers for that
Portsmouth will need to have a perfect defensive display to get anything today.
An early Boro goal would be ideal
https://youtu.be/dBl08nAsb6I?si=qUUJWT2FpCLglICn
Great thread as always
@erimus74 and glad you are writing them again...2-0 to Boro today Latte Lath and Hackney!
Quote from: Francks left peg on August 24, 2024, 09:52:10 AMGreat thread as always @erimus74 and glad you are writing them again...2-0 to Boro today Latte Lath and Hackney!
Cheers Franks, 👍
I'm feeling a bit weird about this one.. funny time of year. They have a great defensive record, they do well on the road and they took Leeds to a 3-3 draw straight out of the blocks.
Hmm.. 1-0 boro.. cautious win.. first half outside of the box banger.
A tough 2-1
Quote from: newyddion on August 24, 2024, 10:57:08 AMI'm feeling a bit weird about this one.. funny time of year. They have a great defensive record, they do well on the road and they took Leeds to a 3-3 draw straight out of the blocks.
Hmm.. 1-0 boro.. cautious win.. first half outside of the box banger.
That's a bit contradictory isn't it? Great defensive record, but conceded 3 in their last game.
They were strong defensively last season though, so I take your point.
Quote from: ZiEgE on August 24, 2024, 01:16:36 PMQuote from: newyddion on August 24, 2024, 10:57:08 AMI'm feeling a bit weird about this one.. funny time of year. They have a great defensive record, they do well on the road and they took Leeds to a 3-3 draw straight out of the blocks.
Hmm.. 1-0 boro.. cautious win.. first half outside of the box banger.
That's a bit contradictory isn't it? Great defensive record, but conceded 3 in their last game.
They were strong defensively last season though, so I take your point.
Yeah.. fucked it.
Just feels like one of those potential banana skin games.
Traditional kick Cmon Boro!
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My concern is regardinv Dijksteel, shouldnt have been dropped v Derby, especially after a MOTM performce a goal & should have been an assist too, he'll feel he's only getting his game due to injuries, not ideal for a players mond no knowing no matfer how he performs as soon as players are fit hes dropped
WtF 0 1 already
:unbelievable:
Get the fuck in. CLARKY!
:champs:
1-1 Clarke
WTF? :unbelievable:
WTF defence and Dieng 1-2
2 easy fucking goals
Absolutely dreadful defending and communication.
:rudi2:
A mess
Keystone Kops defending today - and a gift if a goal last week.
Come on Boro switch yer fucking brains on.
:leo3:
- Comedy defending
- Poor finishing
:carrick3:
Shit defence pathetic both goals especially Dieng
Another frustrating afternoon looking likely
So frustrating to watch
One more!
Phew 2-2 Conway 💪💪💪💪💪
Another unnecessary frustrating match
2-2
I'm not a fan of Azaz - he put a couple of good passes through today but don't think he is good enough.
Dieng had a shocker.
Engel shouldn't put the shirt on again - he needs fucking off.
Burgzorg is really frustrating. He does some great stuff but it comes to nothing. He had about 6 shots today blocked by defenders - he either needs more guile or to take a much a quicker snap shot.
I still like the look of Morris.
Conway looked lively and confident - he starts the next game for me.
Rather calamitous to say the least. Get out of jail moment at the end. Too many mistakes. early days certainly not worth the most expensive or near most expensive ticket prices just look at Sunderland one again flying.
Take away from the game.
Azaz is not good enough in the 10 and will not score a lot of goals there.
Sloppy mistakes are costing us, both of their goals were gifts.
We're not a million miles away from being a very good side, a left back and perhaps McGree or Hamilton becoming a goal scoring 10 and we'll do damage in this league.
I enjoyed that. We have to stop the daft goals, which is easy.
For me Clarke and Ayling were outstanding but I will get hammered for this I thought Azaz was a good 8 out of 10.
Azaz took up some great positions in the first half especially, and must have played Jones in about 6 times, unfortunately Jones just did nothing with it.
I do find Azaz a bit frustrating though. He just lacks any sort of aggression
Frustrating game, still think we'll be more than a match for anyone
The only problem for me with Azaz great awareness, excellent on the ball no end product at the moment he was our best player first half second half we should have had Coburn on for hold up play shocking at the back especially Dieng for their second goal
I think both Portsmouth & Derby will occupy the bottom 6 places, both awful
2 teams we faced today Pompey & ourselves
Happy with a point due to all the possession we had, chances & the ball falling the wrong side of a Boro player in the box
I can't think of a bad performance.
Quote from: erimus74 on August 24, 2024, 02:47:52 PMMy concern is regardinv Dijksteel, shouldnt have been dropped v Derby, especially after a MOTM performce a goal & should have been an assist too, he'll feel he's only getting his game due to injuries, not ideal for a players mond no knowing no matfer how he performs as soon as players are fit hes dropped
I thought he was our best player in the 1st half. No problem with him at all today.
Azaz did play in some good passes, just like Dan Badpasser does. But he's got no composure in or around the box. He certainly not a natural goal scorer.
In this system, we need 10 to 15 goals from the #10 and he ain't gonna get em - I hope he proves me wrong.
Quote from: ZiEgE on August 24, 2024, 07:10:42 PMIn this system, we need 10 to 15 goals from the #10 and he ain't gonna get em - I hope he proves me wrong.
He scored 11 and assisted 10 last season
Quote from: Ayton Mews on August 24, 2024, 07:30:45 PMQuote from: ZiEgE on August 24, 2024, 07:10:42 PMIn this system, we need 10 to 15 goals from the #10 and he ain't gonna get em - I hope he proves me wrong.
He scored 11 and assisted 10 last season
that's brilliant.
Quote from: Bud Wiser on August 24, 2024, 07:06:32 PMQuote from: erimus74 on August 24, 2024, 02:47:52 PMMy concern is regardinv Dijksteel, shouldnt have been dropped v Derby, especially after a MOTM performce a goal & should have been an assist too, he'll feel he's only getting his game due to injuries, not ideal for a players mond no knowing no matfer how he performs as soon as players are fit hes dropped
I thought he was our best player in the 1st half. No problem with him at all today.
Agree
Thought he had a very good game, think he set up Jones for the resulting penalty, which again asks the question, if everyones fit does he start?
For me MC cant keep dropping him when he's performed really well, to then give him 5 minutes here & there
Well to me & I maybe wrong here, but I got the feeling their keeper played the ref & stayed down after we scored to try & break up our flow, we'd banged on the door & finally got out just rewards
Could be part of their managers tactics hto say such in his team talking for the keeper to fake an injury to frustrate the opposition & fans, he certainly looked ok to me when play restarted & why did he remove his top, in the end because of his antics he was finally booked & then warned
Quote from: erimus74 on August 24, 2024, 07:56:27 PMWell to me & I maybe wrong here, but I got the feeling their keeper played the ref & stayed down after we scored to try & break up our flow, we'd banged on the door & finally got out just rewards
Could be part of their managers tactics hto say such in his team talking for the keeper to fake an injury to frustrate the opposition & fans, he certainly looked ok to me when play restarted & why did he remove his top, in the end because of his antics he was finally booked & then warned
100% their keeper did after our 1st goal. I was right behind it and he had a tiny graze on his elbow 🙄
Teams know you can waste loads more time with your keeper going down injured rather than an outfield player
They wasted time and got away with fouls throughout the game. I can't recall a keeper getting sent off after getting two yellow cards for time wasting but their guy today should have been.
On about the 70 min mark the ref brought their captain over when he was talking to the keeper again.
Pretty sure it'll have been; "fair warning - next time he time wastes it's a second yellow and he's off"
Quote from: Ayton Mews on August 24, 2024, 08:11:21 PMOn about the 70 min mark the ref brought their captain over when he was talking to the keeper again.
Pretty sure it'll have been; "fair warning - next time he time wastes it's a second yellow and he's off"
That's exactly what was going on and why I said what I did above. You could see it clearly on the TV. He'd already been booked for it - isn't that already a fair warning? Why fanny about giving him more warnings?
Quote from: Ayton Mews on August 24, 2024, 08:05:18 PMQuote from: erimus74 on August 24, 2024, 07:56:27 PMWell to me & I maybe wrong here, but I got the feeling their keeper played the ref & stayed down after we scored to try & break up our flow, we'd banged on the door & finally got out just rewards
Could be part of their managers tactics hto say such in his team talking for the keeper to fake an injury to frustrate the opposition & fans, he certainly looked ok to me when play restarted & why did he remove his top, in the end because of his antics he was finally booked & then warned
100% their keeper did after our 1st goal. I was right behind it and he had a tiny graze on his elbow 🙄
Teams know you can waste loads more time with your keeper going down injured rather than an outfield player
Thought as much, when I looked across at the replay, thinking he'd dived in to the post, realised he hadn't & thought well, whats he done to cause such a delay then he took his top off I was expected a change of keeper & said to my son in law, I cant see anyone coming on
The ref was poor & should have clamped down on his antics sooner than he did
Horrible team whose tactics are to frustrate teams will hopefully pay the penalty as teams are aware of their game plan
Big mention to Conway who could have been named MOTM with his short spell on the pitch
Could he be the replacement for a Chuba type, a player we have missed so much, we were so threatening as a unit with Chuba
I think his two cameo roles & not starting is to build up his fitness & once up to speed, judging by today he's not far away, having Azaz on the bench with Conway in that role ELL
I that Carrick had that for Conway to play that role
Quote from: Ayton Mews on August 24, 2024, 08:11:21 PMOn about the 70 min mark the ref brought their captain over when he was talking to the keeper again.
Pretty sure it'll have been; "fair warning - next time he time wastes it's a second yellow and he's off"
and then he just kept on doing it anyway!
Quote from: Hound on August 22, 2024, 03:07:06 PMI fear a score draw, 2-2 maybe.
As I guessed,
Bang average today, gifted 2 goals to Pompey, at least the shots on target for us increased today, I think their keeper made a couple of decent saves too.
On last weeks (now deleted) match thread I wrote about 6 months bad luck rolled into 90 minutes and we saw another slice of the same yesterday - even acknowledged by Portsmouth's manager...
https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/football/portsmouth-fc/middlesbrough-deserved-to-win-honest-portsmouth-boss-takes-the-positives-despite-more-late-agony-4755620
But my biggest concern is that we were promised a root & branch investigation into the amount of injuries we were picking up last season. Yet two games in to a new campaign we're already down to one fit left-back and one fit centre back. Hmmm.
Poor finishing cost us. Everyone played well
Quote from: Bud Wiser on August 25, 2024, 06:28:55 AMOn last weeks (now deleted) match thread I wrote about 6 months bad luck rolled into 90 minutes and we saw another slice of the same yesterday - even acknowledged by Portsmouth's manager...
https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/football/portsmouth-fc/middlesbrough-deserved-to-win-honest-portsmouth-boss-takes-the-positives-despite-more-late-agony-4755620
But my biggest concern is that we were promised a root & branch investigation into the amount of injuries we were picking up last season. Yet two games in to a new campaign we're already down to one fit left-back and one fit centre back. Hmmm.
Nice to read a bit of honesty, I agree & kept saying throughout the gane that we're just unlucky throughout the 90 minutes, along with sloppy defending
Was hoping Gilbert would have been given a run out, though can understand wanting to get Conway involved as much as possible, for me I would have kept Gilbert in, ahead of Azaz, following his performance at Leeds, think he'll be off friday though
Took a lot of bottle from Conway to take the ball off ELL for the penalty
Final minute & losing 2-1, no worries, back of the net, 👍
We will finish top 2.
Tommy Conway became the 99th different penalty goalscorer when he scored our 281st home penalty
Engel is fucking shite
Give him to Pools