First off, before we get to discuss Saturdays fixture, we heard the sad news this week thats more important than football, one of our very own, one of the biggest, iconic legends to wear the famous red shirt, best wishes to our former Boro captain, manager & forever legend, Tony Mowbray x
Can Boro build on their fantastic 2-1 away win last Saturday at runaway leaders & champions in waiting Leicester City with a thoroughly deserved victory.
Boro's last back-to-back away/home win was middle of December & with not winning a home league game this calendar year what better time then to put those two stats to bed
On the Leicester game, O'Brien was back to his pre injury best, great run & pass for the opening goal, McNair, another player that's been out for a long spell who just slotted back in as if he'd been there all the time
VDB just oozes class, he seems to get better with each game, Clarke, another player who was out for a long time & has come back to play consistently well & at a good level.
Silvera had his best game in a Boro shirt, lovely pass to O'Brien for the first goal & class finish for the second. McGree who won the ball & fed Silvera is such an important player for us, I really hope is still here next season.
Azaz two goals now in 2 games, both good finishes, hopefully he can build on his performances against his former loanee club Plymouth, you never know he could help us forget about Rogers, he's already scored the same league goals as Rogers so far, needs another 6 to overtake his tally of 7, his tally could have easily been double that figure which gives us confidence that he'll be among the goals for the remainder of this season & next
With Latte Lath & Jones close to a recall thing are slightly starting to look up
Though with Fry, Bangura, Howson & Hackney mow on the injury list, with the latter 3 out for what seems to be a long spell, the club's continuous bad luck with injuries has haunted us even before a ball was kicked this season, you would think & hope, that after what seems like 10 seasons of injuries in 9 months that going forward, we can think maybe next season the injury gods will be more kind to us
I've said this before & will say again we need to tie down Carrick to a long term contract, not that I have doubts about him not been here next season just for potential signings showing that he's committed to the club
In fact I don't think we had a weak player throughout, everyone gave their all & when you think, during our poor run of form under Wilder you could see the players didn't want to play for him, yet during our poor run the present squad are 100% behind Carrick, the evidence was clear to see against Leicester, which is good to see
18/12/1954 Boro 4 Plymouth 1 with a Joe Scott hat trick - First meeting on Teesside between both teams with the following record
Won - 9
Drew - 3
Lost - 5
Goals scored - 36
Goals against - 16
Home 4 goals / hat tricks v Plymouth
18/12/1954 - Joseph Scott scored his one & only first team hat trick against Plymouth, the 64th at Ayresome Park & 68th on Teesside, 81st in total – Won 4-1
5/9/1959 - Brian Clough became the 11th different Boro player to score 4 goals in one game, at this point it had been done 25 times – Won 6-2
14/10/1967 - John Hickton scored his 3rd Boro hat trick, the Boro's 77th at Ayresome Park, 81st on Teesside & 108th in total – Won 4-2
Home penalties v Plymouth
10/3/1956 – Lindy Delapenha became the clubs 35th different penalty goalscorer when he scored our 108th home penalty - Lost 2-1
23/2/1961 – Donald Walker became the clubs 37th different penalty goalscorer when he scored the clubs 131st home penalty – Won 3-1
Home debut / final Boro appearance v Plymouth
25/2/1961 - William Hamilton made his debut after moving from Sheffield United this month – Won 3-1
24/8/1963 - Robert Braithwaite made his debut after moving from Linfield in June & Eddie Connachan made his debut after moving from Dunfermline Athletic earlier in the month – Won 5-0
13/2/1965 - William Harris made his last appearance before moving to Bradford City, as Manager, in March – lost 3-1
14/10/1989 - Gary Gill made his final appearance before moving to Darlington in December – Lost 2-0
31/10/2009 – Gordon Strachans debut in the Boro dugout – Lost 1-0
Represented Boro & Plymouth
David Jack - played 45 games, scoring 10 goals for Plymouth in season 1919/20 - Boro manager between 1944/1952
Lennie Lawrence - Caretaker at Plymouth in 1978 Boro manager between 1991-1994
Alan Miller - 1988/94 9 games - Boro 1994/97 57 games
Dwight Marshall - April 1993 Our 18th loaned player, Plymouth sent him north for a look to buy player, fast player but nothing came of it & he returned to Plymouth - two sub appearances, no goals
Anthony Barness - 21st loaned player - Loaned from Chelsea - One appearance in the Anglo Italian cup v Grimsby Town away 1993 - 37 games for Plymouth 2005/07
Tony Pulis - managed Plymouth 2005/6 - Managed Boro 2017/19
Yanik Bolasie - 2008/11 51 games, 8 goals - Boro 2021 15 games, 3 goals
Jack Stephens - 2010/11 5 games, zero goals - Boro 2015/16 one game
Ben Gibson - 2011 13 games, zero goals - Boro 2010/18 185 games, 4 goals
Finn Azaz - onloan at Plymouth from his parent club Aston Villa who we bought him from, 2 goals so far
George Dews
Bobby Stuart
Ronald Waldock
Nice story
My brother-in-law, who was born in Thornaby, now lives in Canada, his dad once played centre forward for Plymouth in the early 50's, made his debut against Leeds United with John Charles marking him
The story goes when my son in laws dad scored his 1st of two goal John Charles picked him & said, good goal son but you won't get another touch, he went on to score a 2nd goal, Leeds won 4-2
Long after he retired & living back in Thornaby he went to Devon for a holiday & decided to visit his former clubs ground, Home Park while he was down that part of the world & so jumped on the bus to go to the Plymouths town centre to then get another bus to the ground, on paying he told the bus driver he's going to Home Park to visit his old playing ground, the driver recognised him, told him he enjoyed watching him play for Plymouth & took him straight to the ground himself.
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Nice little story about Plymouth Erimus :cheers:
Season's more or less over for both these teams now. Ill go for the score draw or a narrow Boro win on a footie bet if I have one in this game.
Is this the game I was on bout last week where somethings planned . they all walking out
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Quote from: In With the Lurpak on February 16, 2024, 06:08:49 PMLad at work was on bout the Boro today , saying something bout the 12th man and red faction are planning something . no idea what or where, might be against Leicester might be next home game .
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BORO 1 PILGRIMS 1
AZAZ TO SCORE AGAINST HIS LOAN CLUB ....
Another fantastic write up Erimus if we stick to the same team as last week I can see us winning this 2-0 mighty Reds
Might "squeeze" a
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Brilliant post Erimus. I'm sure we are all praying for Mogga.
Great anecdote about you BIL's father too.
4-0
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Quote from: In With the Lurpak on February 22, 2024, 05:43:04 AMNice little story about Plymouth Erimus :cheers:
Season's more or less over for both these teams now. Ill go for the score draw or a narrow Boro win on a footie bet if I have one in this game.
Is this the game I was on bout last week where somethings planned . they all walking out
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Think RF have postpobed the walkout after meeting up with Gibbo
Quote from: teamboro on February 22, 2024, 07:19:10 AMAnother fantastic write up Erimus if we stick to the same team as last week I can see us winning this 2-0 mighty Reds
Cheers teamboro, lets hope for our first home league win of 2024
Quote from: Johnny Thunder on February 22, 2024, 09:47:50 AMBrilliant post Erimus. I'm sure we are all praying for Mogga.
Great anecdote about you BIL's father too.
4-0
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Cheers Johnny, yea loved the story when my BIL told me it last year
Quote from: AtomicDog on February 22, 2024, 07:30:29 AMMight "squeeze" a
9-0
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Double Azaz hat trick, a header, right foot & left foot goals, perfect treble 😁
Erimus quality again mate!!!! I'm gonna go for a tight one but a clean sheet
Boro 1-0 Green army Azaz
Quote from: RiversideRifle on February 22, 2024, 10:28:01 AMErimus quality again mate!!!! I'm gonna go for a tight one but a clean sheet
Boro 1-0 Green army Azaz
Cheers Rifle, glad Azaz has got his goal out of the way, hopefully hes a bit more relaxed
Plymouth are fairly useless away so a guaranteed 0-0 draw
Great stuff Erimus, I think we will tonk them. Saying that I always think we will tonk them.
Quote from: Blott on February 22, 2024, 11:42:05 AMGreat stuff Erimus, I think we will tonk them. Saying that I always think we will tonk them.
Cheers Blotty, I think we know they'll score, so we need to bag 2
Gonna be a cold one today, get wrapped up
Few hours in bed, up about one, quick bite to eat then out the door
Glover
Ayling
VDB
Clarke
Engel
Barlasar
O'Brien
Forss
Azaz
McGree
Silvera
My predicted line up, rest Paddy after been out so long & a good, solud performance last week
Azaz to continue his goalscoring with a brace against his former loanees
Might even see a second half dedutant
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A comfy 2-0 would not go amiss today , silence still on certin injuries however is not helping the plans
THERE BRINGING A THOUSAND FANS 👍👍👍
GOOD TURNOUT THAT FOR A 862 MILE ROUND TRIP 👍👍👍
Great write up as always Erimus 👍Love the anecdote about your Brother in Law.
Going for a 3-1 win today .I'm still on a high from Leicester 😂.The grandads are off to Stoke next week ,looking forward to that.
UTMB!!!
2 nowt boro
Quote from: Smoggers51 on February 24, 2024, 11:12:02 AMGreat write up as always Erimus 👍Love the anecdote about your Brother in Law.
Going for a 3-1 win today .I'm still on a high from Leicester 😂.The grandads are off to Stoke next week ,looking forward to that.
UTMB!!!
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Quote from: LIDDLE_TOWERS999 on February 24, 2024, 11:11:15 AMTHERE BRINGING A THOUSAND FANS 👍👍👍
GOOD TURNOUT THAT FOR A 862 MILE ROUND TRIP 👍👍👍
FFS Lids - They're
THEY HAVE ONLY WON ONCE AWAY IN 17 AWAY GAMES THIS SEASON IN ALL COMPS 🙄
KEPT 4 CLEAN SHEETS OUT OF THE LAST 5 GAMES AGANST BORO AWAY :rav:
Top thread. Thank you Erimus.
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Great stuff again Erimus.
Sat in the Pig Iron talking to a few lads from Plymouth. They had a great night out last night. 2 weeks ago they were in S'land, in their words what a shit hole. No one in the pubs.
They are not confident, I know that feeling.
Best town in the best country on this planet.
Saying positive things about Boro.
Reported.
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GLOVER 🙄😞😞😞🙄
Quality post E-Man.
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5-1 Azazz hat trick.
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Clarke on bench, Forss in, Thomas for Engle
C'mon Boro!
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Latte Lath on the bench, good 👍
FUCK OFF GLOVER YOU USELESS AUSSIE CUNT 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
Quote from: erimus74 on February 24, 2024, 02:31:56 PMC'mon Boro!
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Looks like a lush day back home
With I was there
UTB
Useless cunts
Fucking shite at the back and midfield again 0-1 plym :unbelievable:
Our finishing is fucking disgraceful again,,
FFS home form is shit 0-2 Plymouth :unbelievable: :wankers:
OOOOOFFFF.....
OBrien shite man
This on loan left back is not a patch on Engel and Ayling is just pointless.
Kiss good bye to promotion or the play offs
First time everr feel like walking out ......glover getting stick ....but the fuckers in front of him are dismal
Glover has kept the score down.
Im afraid our 'playing out from the back' has been well and truly sussed out.
Quote from: Kippers on February 24, 2024, 03:56:27 PMIm afraid our 'playing out from the back' has been well and truly sussed out.
:charles: :charles: :charles: Gotta be able to play first n foremost using them tactics .. these lot couldn't string a few balloons together never mind the passes needed to create a threat :sid:
Beaten in all departments
Very Poor
Shite match oh well let's see if the Egg chasers can stop me having a bad sport weekend lol
For the firat time I have more reservations about Carrick not been here than is here next season
That was as bad a performance we've seen under Warnock, Strachan, Wilder etc when they came to the end if their time here
Quote from: erimus74 on February 24, 2024, 05:19:31 PMFor the firat time I have more reservations about Carrick not been here than is here next season
That was as bad a performance we've seen under Warnock, Strachan, Wilder etc when they came to the end if their time here
Erimus its Gibson who needs to do one . seriously .
play one way ,get sussed out , you need another plan ffs. Sides now press us 20 yds from our goal KNOWING we will bugger up , this is as low as i have felt this season , because i know nothing will change , we will still just keep doing what we do regardless at home with this type of performance all too regularly happening this season , we seriously are back to square one now & its not looking pretty come the summer with yet another major rebuild required ......& prob VERY limited funds
Get on the yag & f it all :cheers: :monkeyman4:
Quote from: teamboro on February 24, 2024, 03:49:55 PMKiss good bye to promotion or the play offs
I could've told you that back in August.
Quote from: Gingerpig on February 24, 2024, 05:53:02 PMplay one way ,get sussed out , you need another plan ffs. Sides now press us 20 yds from our goal KNOWING we will bugger up , this is as low as i have felt this season , because i know nothing will change , we will still just keep doing what we do regardless at home with this type of performance all too regularly happening this season , we seriously are back to square one now & its not looking pretty come the summer with yet another major rebuild required ......& prob VERY limited funds
Get on the yag & f it all :cheers: :monkeyman4:
This four-two-three-wrong set-up got sussed out weeks ago. Just a pity the penny hasn't dropped for our thick as a plank manager.
Why he changed the formation from last week that system plays to our strengths
:unbelievable: Gutted
Quote from: teamboro on February 24, 2024, 05:10:09 PMShite match oh well let's see if the Egg chasers can stop me having a bad sport weekend lol
Cracking game, I assume you mean Wigan v Penrith and not that boring union shite ?
Start of season
Boro 3/1 3rd favs to be promoted
Today 50/1
Selling the best players as usual replacing with shite as usual :redcard:
Next pre season as usual built up on false promises and pure bovine tripe :fibber: :supremeleader:
And for the privilege he want's people to pay premier league prices :winston:
PS The team who humiliated Boro today are 500/1 or summing to be promoted :rav:
PPS Leicester City are 1/33 to get promoted. What's your point again?
Enjoy your Bovril watching dodgy Netflix.
Blotty , we were shite today totally sussed with a 1 style game plan that has been seriously sussed by even the WORST sides in the league , beyond getting angry , just have a scoop instead
Can he solve the problem is the question ?, because we do look so much better with 5 at back
The club needs a clearout from top to bottom.
From the owner to the "fans group".
Too many yes men and mediocre players brought in to replace half decent players flogged off.
Woodgate. Why is he still around? Is he the new Agnew?
And as for the "fans group". This last few days have proved how toothless they are. There is NO WAY Nichols will rock the boat if he gets the job. I have never known the board be so distanced from the fans.
Gerrard, Lampard now Carrick is making that list.
No excuses for today. Out played and out thought.
If that was an away game the players would pay the fans coach travel!
The biggest proof is Erimus.
When he starts questioning The Boro you know there must be problems.
Quote from: Blott on February 24, 2024, 10:22:15 PMPPS Leicester City are 1/33 to get promoted. What's your point again?
Enjoy your Bovril watching dodgy Netflix.
What's even the point of you Blott you come on saying one thing then totally contradict yourself within hours
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Quote from: In With the Lurpak on February 25, 2024, 06:55:41 AMQuote from: Blott on February 24, 2024, 05:30:41 PMIf you think I can defend that you are very wrong. It was abysmal. No shots on target, slow, I don't do tactics but what were they?
A few moments later :diego:
Quote from: Blott on February 24, 2024, 09:17:07 PMYou get too high when we win and pissed off when we lose, try a more balanced approach. Last week the world was a great place, arms punching this week the world has collapsed and sack everyone. This season we made the semi final of a major cup, that alone makes it at least a 6 out of 10 season.
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Quote from: Gingerpig on February 24, 2024, 10:53:04 PMBlotty , we were shite today totally sussed with a 1 style game plan that has been seriously sussed by even the WORST sides in the league , beyond getting angry , just have a scoop instead
Can he solve the problem is the question ?, because we do look so much better with 5 at back
I agree. Plymouth had an out. A big Centre Forward, we are far too slow. I don't really do tactics I just want us to win.
But no one was moaning after Leicester City 1 Middlesbrough 2.
Quote from: Blott on February 25, 2024, 12:26:55 PMQuote from: Gingerpig on February 24, 2024, 10:53:04 PMBlotty , we were shite today totally sussed with a 1 style game plan that has been seriously sussed by even the WORST sides in the league , beyond getting angry , just have a scoop instead
Can he solve the problem is the question ?, because we do look so much better with 5 at back
I agree. Plymouth had an out. A big Centre Forward, we are far too slow. I don't really do tactics I just want us to win.
But no one was moaning after Leicester City 1 Middlesbrough 2.
They were not , but that was because got lucky ,they missed 2 gilt edged chances 1st half , we picked them off & got battered 2nd half but hung on .....that was away however!
At home we try & play out , they let us for 20 yds ish, then 2 or 3 press rigth up , we fuck up .....& their game plan is based on it ...because we regularly do it , our home record is not a fluke , it happens because we are not capable of playing this way , this set are not good enough to do it & i fear the riverside is becoming a bear pit if we continue with a failed system at home
Quote from: Gingerpig on February 25, 2024, 12:42:26 PMQuote from: Blott on February 25, 2024, 12:26:55 PMQuote from: Gingerpig on February 24, 2024, 10:53:04 PMBlotty , we were shite today totally sussed with a 1 style game plan that has been seriously sussed by even the WORST sides in the league , beyond getting angry , just have a scoop instead
Can he solve the problem is the question ?, because we do look so much better with 5 at back
I agree. Plymouth had an out. A big Centre Forward, we are far too slow. I don't really do tactics I just want us to win.
But no one was moaning after Leicester City 1 Middlesbrough 2.
They were not , but that was because got lucky ,they missed 2 gilt edged chances 1st half , we picked them off & got battered 2nd half but hung on .....that was away however!
At home we try & play out , they let us for 20 yds ish, then 2 or 3 press rigth up , we fuck up .....& their game plan is based on it ...because we regularly do it , our home record is not a fluke , it happens because we are not capable of playing this way , this set are not good enough to do it & i fear the riverside is becoming a bear pit if we continue with a failed system at home
again I agree with you, playing from the back is OK, I don't understand why we do it 100pc of the time. But as I keep saying I am not a tactics bloke, if an ex England international and god knows how many trophies thinks it a good idea who am I to question. I don't tell the Dentist how to give me a filling. Saying that I can't comprehend the goalkeeping situation.
Look, we made it to the semi final of a major cup, we win big games but our home record is dreadful.
Football to me is getting dropped off in the Town, a few beers the game and picked up for a curry at 5. If I wanted to watch Premiership football I would get a ticket at Newcastle.
Football on TV is no different to watching Strictly, you only see 10pc of what is going on. If you look at the credits at the end you will notice an editor. They choose what you see.
24 hours on and I'm still seething about yesterdays debacle. Not since a Woodgate orchestrated, post covid capitulation against Swansea three & a half years ago have I been so infuriated about any MFC performance - and we all know what rightly happened to him after that.
The fact Carrick is STILL experimenting with forward positions this far into the season is staggering. In fact the cynic in me can't help wondering if he's deliberately playing bizarre formations - certainly at home - to try and get himself a nice pay off!
Either way, CARRICK OUT.