After a brilliant performance against West Brom on the 23rd we travel to South Yorkshire to face bottom of the league Rotherham to hopefully continue to win enough points to get in among the playoff pack
Our football results this week have been like waiting for a bus, you wait for ages then 3 turn up together, following the 2nd half collapse at home to Hull City when we were comfortably winning 1-0 (if you can be comfortable at one nil up that is) then shot ourselves in the foot with a crazy 10 minute spell we end up losing the game 2-1. We then travelled to South Wales, again with a depleted team & came away with a 2-1 win, 3 days later we progressed to our 1st cup semi final for 20 years on Tuesday when comfortably beating Port Vale 3-0 & capped off a tremendous 7 days with a magnificent performance at home to West Brom, when all things considered, the best display of the season for me, which not only moved us up 3 places but now, 3 points separate us from 5th & 6th place teams, with one point separating the Boro & 7th place, the Championship is such a tight league, considering our injury list its nothing short of miraculous that we have done so well with so many 1st team players missing
A magnificent team effort for every individual player v West Brom for our final Saturday fixture of the year with Barlasar having his best game in a Boro shirt v West Brom, right from the off he was beating a couple of men then playing the ball off, his through ball to Engel for the goal was quality, he was sort of running the show against a team I thought would overpower & out battle us in midfield, but far from it, hopefully he kicks on from here
VDB, gets better each week, 19 years of age playing, out of position, in a foreign county, what a player he's turning in to
Engels game is far better for me than Giles, not so much when putting the ball in the box but far, far better defensively, I would think that Engel won't be far behind Giles on assists come the end of the season
Johnny Howson, if the West Brom commentator is correct will start, if selected, his 299th Boro game
Fry, Glover, Rogers, Silvera, excelled also, Jones for me, is important in a big part of our defensive play. Dijksteel had his best game for along, long time. Greenwood with his constant running & pressing, unsettling defenders played a big part in West Broms poor form on saturday
It was nice to see McGree & Coburn make cameo appearances on Saturday, especially McGree who is such an important player for us & sort of proved his case when he came on & his little nippy footwork almost set us up for another goal we could have scored
Listening to Michael Carrick on the BBC Tees podcast after the West Brom game you could feel how excited he was with that performance, as opposed to how flat he was after the Hull defeat
After doubting him & the recruitment team following the first 6 fixtures that seen us sit bottom of the league when the team build was in its early stages he's slowly getting us playing to how we did last season, controlling the game, keeping the ball, whereas last season, we had some big players to finish off our excellent moves, this season we have our own young players who are finding their feet in the Championship & in time, will come good
The Rotherham fixture, our penultimate game of the year, is a completely different scenario from the past 7/8 fixtures, in the fact, the teams we've faced have been, top two, down to top half the table opposition, Rotherham are the opposite, rooted to the foot of the table, 9 points from safety, only 2 home wins this season & minus 27 goals, without a win since the back end of October when they beat Coventry 3-0, big win, so its in them to create an upset
Not saying it's going to be any easier than those games mentioned, I would think Michael Carrick will send out his team in the right frame of mind but one thing I'll expect from Rotherham, they'll put up more of a fight than West Brom did
The 1st Rotherham v Boro fixture was played on the 4th September 1954, Boro losing 3-0 with 2 Boro players making their final appearances on that day, William Watkin, moving to Mansfield Town in June & Joseph Rayment moving to Hartlepool United in July, both in 1955
Boxing days game will be the 22nd game in South Yorkshire between Rotherham & Boro, with the following:
Won - 13
Drew - 1
Lost - 7
For - 36
Against - 27
No away hat tricks
Away debut v Rotherham
30/10/1983 - Alan Roberts made his Boro debut away to Rotherham, replacing Tony Mowbray in the 2nd half, Heine Otto scoring our goal in a 1-1 draw, I was behind the goal that afternoon
3rd April 1956 - Albert Mitchell outside right who made 56 appearances for the Boro, scoring 6 goals made his final appearance in a 2-1 defeat at Rotherham, before moving to Southport in August, with Billy Day scoring out 1st Boro goal away to Rotherham
5/5/2019 - Jon Mikel Obi's first goal for Boro in a 2-1 win at Rotherham was his one & only Boro goal
Away debut goalscorers v Rotherham
11/9/1958 - Alan Rodgerson, signed from Potters Bay, Hertfordshire, scored 2 golas in our 4-1 win, 72nd debutant goalscorer
01/11/2014 - Yanic Wildschut became the 124th Boro player to score on his debut when he scored in a 3-0 win
1/1/1966 Stan Anderson become our 1st player coach (not manager back then) to score an away goal when he netted our only goal in a 4-1 loss at Rotherham
Away penalties v Rotherham
5/5/2019 - Brit Assombalnga - became the 89th different penalty scorer when he netted in a 2-1 win our 130th away penalty
Played for both teams
Hughie Mcllmoyle played for Rotherham in 1962, 12 games, 4 goals, between 1969-71 he played 80 games, scoring 22 goals
Dave Currie played for Middlesbrough between 1982-86, playing 125 games, scoring 31 goals, signed for Rotherham on loan from Barnsley in 1992, played 5 games, scoring 2 goals
1985-86 Pat Heard our 4th loaned player, before signing permanent for us in 1985, played a total of 26 games, scoring 2 goals, played for Rotherham 1988 to 1990, playing 44 goals, 7 games
Kelham O'Hanlon started at the Boro & between 1982-85 played 97 games in goals, our 40th used 1st team GK, when he was released from the Boro he signed for Rotherham, playing over 250 games between 1985-1991
April 1986 Phil Kite was signed by Boro manager Willie Maddren on loan from Southampton, due to keeper Stephen Pears been out injured, he played 2 games, he became our 45th 1st team used GK, our 6th loaned player, ironically 4 of them 6 were GK's, he played one game in goal for Rotherham in 1992 when signed from Sheff Utd
Phil Whelan signed for the Boro in 1995/97 played 22 games, scoring the one goal, in 1999 he played 13 games for Rotherham, scoring 4 goals
Chris Wilder played 132 games for Rotherham between 1992-96 scoring 11 goals
Robbie Stockdale played 75 games for the Boro between 1997 - 2004, scoring 2 goals, in 2004 the Boro loaned him to Rotherham & in 2004/05 he signed permanently
May 1999 Michael Cummins one game for the Boro away to West Ham, between 2008-2010 he played 50 games for Rotherham, scoring 5 goals
Richie Smallwood started at the Boro & between 2010/13 played 72 games, scoring 4 goals, he then signed for Rotherham on loan in the summer of 2014 & after 19 games signed permanently for an initial fee of £175,000 & between
2014/2017 Smallwood played 108 games, scoring 3 goals
Adam Hammil had loans at both Boro & Rotherham, a0 games at the Boro in 2012 & 14 games at Rotherham in 2015, zero goals at either club
Frazer Richardson signed for the Boro in 2012, played 11 games, later signed Rotherham in 2014/16, playing 40 games2014/15 season Jamal Blackman played one game for the Boro, a league cup away game at Liverpool in a 14/13 penalty shoot-out, 2020/21 season loan at Rotherham where he played 26 games
Darnell Fisher played for Rotherham played 34 games, zero goals, in season 2016/17, signed for the Boro
Dael Fry played 10 games at Rotherham in 2016/17 season
Grant Leadbitter played 5 games on loan at Rotherham from Sunderland in 2005, scoring one goal, in 2012 Mogga signed Grant for the Boro from Ipswich where he played well over 200 games, scoring 30 goals
Lewis Wing between 2017-2022 played 92 games for the Boro, scoring 14 goals, loaned to Rotherham in 2021 he played 20 games, scoring 2 goals
Lee Peltier signed for the Boro in 2021 from WBA, he played 21 games without scoring, when the Boro released him in the summer of 2022 he signed for Rotherham
2021 Grant Hall signed for the Boro where he played 27 games, presently on loan at Rotherham
Matt Crooks Boro signed MC from Rotherham in the summer of 2021, at the Boro he's played 93 games, scoring 20 goals
Dan Barlasar signed from Rotherham in January 2023 for an undisclosed fee
Managed both teams
Neil Warnock - Done a similar job to what he later did at the Boro. "good old Neil" came in with Rotherham 3rd bottom, not only beating the Boro but secured safety for Rotherham, with an amazing 9 points to spare, two clubs he managed to keep in the Championship, but what do you expect from the bloke who has proven to be the best Championship manager ever
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Hope we can carry on the performance from Saturday
Great write up again Erimus
0-2 to the mighty Reds let's keep this little run going
Quote from: teamboro on December 24, 2023, 09:34:57 PMHope we can carry on the performance from Saturday
Great write up again Erimus
0-2 to the mighty Reds let's keep this little run going
Fingers crossed teamboro
If they follow Carricks instructions to the letter we'll win
MILLERS 1 BORO LIONS 🦁 3
COBURN
CROOKS
LATH
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Merry Christmas Erimus , your dedication is a thing of beauty, doubt any other forum has anything to compare pal 👍👍
UTB 3-0 the mighty Boro
Quote from: TeessideTopgun on December 25, 2023, 12:46:44 PMMerry Christmas Erimus , your dedication is a thing of beauty, doubt any other forum has anything to compare pal 👍👍
UTB 3-0 the mighty Boro
Cheers Topgun appreciate that & Merry Christmas to you & your family
Well after a busy day looking forward to the biggy tomorrow
1-2 boro 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🍻
Crikey is this VHS Tape yours Erimus
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There can't be many other VHS Recordings of Rotherham V Boro about they could put this in one of them time capsules they bury for some one to find in 10,000 years time :mick: :klippety:
Always plenty to read on the Erimus match thread :klippety:
Rotherham 1 :katie: - Boro 2 :wry:
Massive banana skin this one today
Typical Boro written all over it especially after our performance against West Brom the other day
Them 2 Us 0
Quote from: tunstall on December 26, 2023, 05:54:11 AMMassive banana skin this one today
Typical Boro written all over it especially after our performance against West Brom the other day
Them 2 Us 0
Thats the spirit! :unbelievable:
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Quote from: In With the Lurpak on December 26, 2023, 04:56:51 AMCrikey is this VHS Tape yours Erimus
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There can't be many other VHS Recordings of Rotherham V Boro about they could put this in one of them time capsules they bury for some one to find in 10,000 years time :mick: :klippety:
Always plenty to read on the Erimus match thread :klippety:
Rotherham 1 :katie: - Boro 2 :wry:
Yes mine Lurpak 👌
0-5
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Quote from: Johnny Thunder on December 26, 2023, 12:25:51 PM0-5
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That would worry the rest of the teams around us, depleted Boro still continue to challenge the playoff pack, what will happen with a full strenth team
We've enjoyed 3 x 4-1 wins there & a couple of 3-0 wins yet I would happily settle for a 1-0 win, just to keep ticking along, the group we're among will start to fall away as the months tick by, maybe the 4 play offs will be contested by 6, 7 teams, lets make sure we're one of them
If we're successful today we'll climb a few places with West Brom home to Norwich & Hull home to Sunderland, meaning points dropped
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Why not give Kavanagh a go upfront
Brilliant write up.
We are going up.
Leeds got beat at Preson, who climb to 7th, one thing I dispice in todays game when it showed the Leeds keeper getting sent off, the pathetic Preston player rolling around when the Leeds keeper put his hand on his face, he should be disciplined, for me that is the only reason VAR should be used in our game, nothing more
But it'll never happen because its more important a goal is disallowed because the scoring playets tie nail was infront of the defenders toenail yet a player can cheat to gain an advantage & its ok
Maybe its politcal, cheating is a labourite, toe nail a tory 😉🤣
C'mon Boro!
Mainly one way traffic but frustrating in the final third from us
Can see Coburn & McGree introduced earlyv2nd half for Greenwood /Silvera & Rogers, even though Greenwood could have had 2 we seem to fall down when hes on the ball
Still rather have Engel than Bangura mind
Fairly turgid stuff against a team with absolutely no ambition whatsoever. Hopeful we can nick a goal but 0-0 is a distinct possibility against these spoilers.
A plucky little side are Rotherham. Seem to be absorbing everything. Not to different from what I saw from them when they played Leeds a few weeks ago.
That was a penalty
FFS that was a fluke :unbelievable:
1-0
Fucking knew that was coming
Typical Middlesbrough bottom of the league Rotherham :unbelievable:
Awful performance, we sluggishly went forward 1st half but 2nd half we were poor
Rotherham offered so little just prepared to hold out for a draw, but then out of nothing they score, we only have ourselves to blame, a lacklustre performance throughout with no standout players
Silvera continues to launch bals into orbit, surely the coaching staff can get hold of him on how to hit a ball, what you need to do with your body, we cant encourage him to just blazingly put the ball in row Z
Typical Boro hey
I'd like to see the back of Silvera and Greenwood.
They are NOT up to this level.
Quote from: Kippers on December 26, 2023, 05:01:13 PMI'd like to see the back of Silvera and Greenwood.
They are NOT up to this level.
Yea, Greenwood was poor, yet he could have scored a hat trick, hes not for me, more often then not things fall down with him
Also, Jones without Crooks is lost. And vice versa.
And thats what happens if 3rd Division calibre players fail to take gilt-edge chances against hapless opposition. Trying hard not to fault the effort though, seeing as how one-sided it was. Ultimately separated by a fluke and a clear penalty not being given.
Quote from: Bud Wiser on December 26, 2023, 05:08:53 PMAnd thats what happens if 3rd Division calibre players fail to take gilt-edge chances against hapless opposition. Trying hard not to fault the effort though, seeing as how one-sided it was. Ultimately separated by a fluke and a clear penalty not being given.
ha ha ha ha ha
That's made you Xmas for you. Nice to see you happy.
We lost, that's it, we are in the last 4 I will say that again last 4 of a major cup, still 3 points off the top 6 with the January window on its way.
I am disappointed, but that's it.
I am sure you are the bloke who is crying we are shite on BBC Tees. Evidently Carrick needs to go.
Quote from: Blott on December 26, 2023, 05:19:30 PMQuote from: Bud Wiser on December 26, 2023, 05:08:53 PMAnd thats what happens if 3rd Division calibre players fail to take gilt-edge chances against hapless opposition. Trying hard not to fault the effort though, seeing as how one-sided it was. Ultimately separated by a fluke and a clear penalty not being given.
ha ha ha ha ha
That's made you Xmas for you. Nice to see you happy.
We lost, that's it, we are in the last 4 I will say that again last 4 of a major cup, still 3 points off the top 6 with the January window on its way.
I am disappointed, but that's it.
I am sure you are the bloke who is crying we are shite on BBC Tees. Evidently Carrick needs to go.
Clowns on the phone in agree
I want Carrick to stay, happy the way hes got us playing
Yes today we were poor in the final third, substitutes were poor but hes still learning
Quote from: Blott on December 26, 2023, 05:19:30 PMQuote from: Bud Wiser on December 26, 2023, 05:08:53 PMAnd thats what happens if 3rd Division calibre players fail to take gilt-edge chances against hapless opposition. Trying hard not to fault the effort though, seeing as how one-sided it was. Ultimately separated by a fluke and a clear penalty not being given.
ha ha ha ha ha
That's made you Xmas for you. Nice to see you happy.
We lost, that's it, we are in the last 4 I will say that again last 4 of a major cup, still 3 points off the top 6 with the January window on its way.
I am disappointed, but that's it.
I am sure you are the bloke who is crying we are shite on BBC Tees. Evidently Carrick needs to go.
Hey up, its Mister glass half-full with his detached from reality bullshit again.
Like I said last week, stick to wimmins football, you clueless fantasist.
https://twitter.com/Chris_BoroUTB/status/1739684812993032303
With the amount of new players brought in it was always going to be hard season, hopefully next season with 12 months behind them we could see different players, time will tell, hey
Mind one caller on the phonein said something I bet noone would ever have thought of, he texted, get a 20 goal a season striker in, amazing 😉
He felt the touch on the leg and went down in 2 installments.
Silvera is a poor mans Adama.
Can see another name change happening elsewhere soon............
Quote from: Bud Wiser on December 26, 2023, 05:33:21 PMQuote from: Blott on December 26, 2023, 05:19:30 PMQuote from: Bud Wiser on December 26, 2023, 05:08:53 PMAnd thats what happens if 3rd Division calibre players fail to take gilt-edge chances against hapless opposition. Trying hard not to fault the effort though, seeing as how one-sided it was. Ultimately separated by a fluke and a clear penalty not being given.
ha ha ha ha ha
That's made you Xmas for you. Nice to see you happy.
We lost, that's it, we are in the last 4 I will say that again last 4 of a major cup, still 3 points off the top 6 with the January window on its way.
I am disappointed, but that's it.
I am sure you are the bloke who is crying we are shite on BBC Tees. Evidently Carrick needs to go.
Hey up, its Mister glass half-full with his detached from reality bullshit again.
Like I said last week, stick to wimmins football, you clueless fantasist.
2 questions for you Mr Football.
1) Who do we play in the last 4 of a major cup.
2) How many wins off a play off place.
2.5) depending where you read we had between 75 pc and 82pc of possession, as you are the self styled expert on all things football do you think Carrick and the tactics right or wrong?
Ho ho ho
The fact we are still fortunate to be in with a shout of a top 6 position is down to the mediocrity and inconsistency of other clubs around us. Take away the top 3 - possibly 4 - and you have a hapless clutch of teams who can win a game, lose a game regularly.
To prove a point, we have lost more games than won - and still in there!
To me it was complete folly going into the season with just 2 supposedly lead strikers. And I see this being played out. Coburn? Won't make it as a goal scorer at this grade. The Coffee Man? Presently needs far too many chances to convert one. Support players? Can't rely on them scoring every time.
Blott has a point when citing 3 points off a play off place. But wrong if he thinks this is down to our ability - we're as poor and inconsistent as the majority of teams in this division.
Gibbo out
Hamster cheeks
Errrrrrr Kim Jong something something
Sell the club etc etc etc
UTB
Quote from: Nosmo-King on December 26, 2023, 06:11:24 PMThe fact we are still fortunate to be in with a shout of a top 6 position is down to the mediocrity and inconsistency of other clubs around us. Take away the top 3 - possibly 4 - and you have a hapless clutch of teams who can win a game, lose a game regularly.
To prove a point, we have lost more games than won - and still in there!
To me it was complete folly going into the season with just 2 supposedly lead strikers. And I see this being played out. Coburn? Won't make it as a goal scorer at this grade. The Coffee Man? Presently needs far too many chances to convert one. Support players? Can't rely on them scoring every time.
Blott has a point when citing 3 points off a play off place. But wrong if he thinks this is down to our ability - we're as poor and inconsistent as the majority of teams in this division.
how do I know that you and your mate the football expert Bud moaned about the Sprouts being not quite right.
You still haven't answered whSt gibbo has got wrong in the last 30+ years. I gave you lots of examples he has right.
Can't be arsed to answer you about Gibbo - numerous examples of his poor/ incompetence as an owner, you think differently. Take the number of managers we've gone through in recent years and his incompetence at handling financial management. But of course your rose tinted specs will not allow you to see through the mismanagement.
It does demonstrate your blindness if you think the team is capable of achieving top 6 - without the "assistance " of others in the league. As said, we are no better- or worse - than 10-12 clubs around us. That's the reality so get real
It's brilliant that people think Gibbo is financially incompetent
Couldn't fucking make it up
Boro get beat and all the cranks come out from under their rocks to have a gloat
Quote from: tunstall on December 26, 2023, 07:38:22 PMIt's brilliant that people think Gibbo is financially incompetent
Couldn't fucking make it up
Boro get beat and all the cranks come out from under their rocks to have a gloat
Only £140 million in debt - chicken feed!
Quote from: Nosmo-King on December 26, 2023, 07:57:31 PMOnly £140 million in debt - chicken feed!
I thought that debt was gone after some financial jiggery pokery?
Quote from: Nekder (Kenny) on December 26, 2023, 05:39:45 PMHe felt the touch on the leg and went down in 2 installments.
Silvera is a poor mans Adama.
Can see another name change happening elsewhere soon............
It was Bangura wasn't it?
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Quote from: Nosmo-King on December 26, 2023, 07:30:03 PMCan't be arsed to answer you about Gibbo - numerous examples of his poor/ incompetence as an owner, you think differently. Take the number of managers we've gone through in recent years and his incompetence at handling financial management. But of course your rose tinted specs will not allow you to see through the mismanagement.
It does demonstrate your blindness if you think the team is capable of achieving top 6 - without the "assistance " of others in the league. As said, we are no better- or worse - than 10-12 clubs around us. That's the reality so get real
the art of discussion is to back up your position. I gave you a very long list of major things Gibson has got right. You answered with the gem Woodgate was a weak choice. But by your logic so was Karanka, Robson, McLaren and Southgate, in that Gibson gave all of them their first manager roles. See what I did there I destroyed your point.
Now you destroy mine.
Incidentally what do you mean by assistance?
Quote from: John Trebor on December 26, 2023, 08:28:39 PMQuote from: Nosmo-King on December 26, 2023, 07:57:31 PMOnly £140 million in debt - chicken feed!
I thought that debt was gone after some financial jiggery pokery?
You are correct except it was a perfectly legal transfer of the debt into shares to be held by Gibbo
But don't let that get in the way of a good old moan eh?
:bigjack
Quote from: John Trebor on December 26, 2023, 08:31:31 PMQuote from: Nekder (Kenny) on December 26, 2023, 05:39:45 PMHe felt the touch on the leg and went down in 2 installments.
Silvera is a poor mans Adama.
Can see another name change happening elsewhere soon............
It was Bangura wasn't it?
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Yes i was ambigious i suppose. Silvera was a seperate comment not to do with the pen. 👍
AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO REALISED TODAY THAT THEY WAS MONEY 💷💷💷💷💷 TO BE MADE BY BACKING ROTHERHAM TO WIN :mick:
IT AINT THE FIRST TIME THEY HAVE DONE IT :peopleseyebrow:
AS MY ROTHERHAM MATE WHO TEXT ME LAST NIGHT TEKING THE PISS 🙄🙄🙄
2 WINS ALL SEASON...I THOUGHT YUP....AFTER PREVIOUSLY THINKING WE SHOULD WIN....I RE CHECKED THE STATS...AND REALISED YUP BANNANA SKIN....🍌🍌🍌
PUT A FEW QUID ON THE MILLERS 😉
USELESS CUNTS THE BORO.....19 SHOTS AND COULDNT SCORE IN A BROTHEL 🙄🙄🙄
Silvera celebrates if one of his shots stays in the ground
DONT CARE WHAT ANYONE SAYS....GLOVER TO BLAME FOR THAT GOAL 😡😡😡
DEING WOULD HAVE STOPPED THAT 👍
Quote from: tunstall on December 27, 2023, 07:11:39 AMSilvera celebrates if one of his shots stays in the ground
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