Well we finally got there, on the 8th time of asking the Boro finally put an end to our run of winless league games when we put in an excellent performance & 3 points against Southampton last weekend, followed 3 days later, with Carrick making up to 7 changes from the Saints game, with Jones, Coburn & Howson all watching from the bench, the Boro put in a very good team performance at Bradford to progress to the 4th round of the league cup for the 1st time since 2018 & now back to the Championship, as we travel to the hornets nest to face Watford
Jones & Coburn were unplayable against Southampton, with McGree back to his best of last season, Johnny Howson, although having a quiet game, showing his captains responsibility when stepping forward to take the spot kick, placed the ball on the spot & waiting till everyone was ready & coolly placed the penalty the wrong side of the keeper, scoring the match winning goal
From looking, IMHO, after the Sheff Weds game a team in a relegation fight, only for our fortunes to turn around & we go to Watford full of confidence
Our 1st back to back wins on the bounce, our 1st clean sheet, fingers crossed, we can win our 1st away win, wouldnt it be fiting if we cans see our 1st away hat trick goalscorer since Jelle Vossen at Millwall in 2014, but we cant be too greedy
I would think, unless there are any injuries carried over from the Southampton game, that Michael Carrick will start with the same team that started against last weeks league win
I've only been to Watford the once, back in September 1989, Boro losing 1-0 with a goal from future Boro favourite Paul Wilkinson
On the way out, a couple of Boro fans who not wanting to walk all the way round to the away coaches, which you could see through the allotment fance, decided to scale the wired fence & run across the allotments to the coaches, this lad, who I later found out was from Billingham, scaled the fence quite easy but got his finger stuck at the top of the fence & as it jumped down his finger stuk in the fence & just came off, he grabbed his finger, jumped back over (must have really hurt) & made his way down the busy road to an ambulance that was always stationed at the bottom of the road, later found through friends unfortunately they didn't save his finger
08/10/1966 - 1st fixture between both clubs, Watford 2 Boro 0 - Third divison. Williie Whigham made his debut after moving from Falkirk. Ian Davidson & Bobby Braithwaite made their final appearance for the Boro
Last win at Watfrod was 6th October 2012, Marvin Emnes & Scott McDonald scored our goals in a 2-1 win, Watford actually took the lead after 26 seconds
We have played Watford away 21 times with the following record
Won 6
Drew 3
Lost 12
Goals scored – 19
Goals against - 27
We've never scored a penalty or hat trick against Watford
Away debuts v Watford
08/10/1966 3rd division - Willie Whigham lost 2-0 - Signed from Falkirk
30/9/1989 2nd division - Simon Coleman lost 1-0 - Signed from Mansfield Town
6/4/2015 Championship - Fernando Amorebita lost 2-0 - 73rd loaned player - Loaned from Fulham over 2 seasons with James Husband going to Fulham - Our 51st at the Riverside
14/1/2017 PL - Rudy Gestede drew 0-0 - Signed from Aston Villa
11/9/2020 Championship - Marcus Bettinelli lost 1-0 - Our 97th loaned player - Loaned from Fulham - 64th at the Riverside - 8th GK
A number of players who played for both team
Paul Wilkinson
Willie Falconer - Swap with Trevor Putney going to Vicaridge road
Trevor Putney - As above
Diego Babbrini
Malcolm Poskett - Holds the record for the least amount of playing minutes in the 1st team for the Boro a while at Ayresome Park when he made his one & only 1st team appearance on the 13th October 1973 at home to Hull City, coming on for Malcolm Smith with 13 minutes remaining
Andrew Taylor
Nathaniel Chalobah loaned out to both clubs
Mark Yates
Danny Graham
Adlène Guedioura
Diego Fabbrine - 74th loaned player - Loaned from Watford - 52nd at the Riverside - Played 26 games, 6 goals - 2015/16
Doubles over each other
Boro - 1969/70 & 1971/2
Watford - 1989/90
Cimon Boro!
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HORNETS 🐝 2 BORO LIONS 🦁 2
COBURN
MCGREE
Not the brightest the Billog lads....
Watford 3 Boro 0
1-1
I would take a draw and think it will be
1-3
:carrick4:
Lets keep the momentum 1-2 UTB
Thanks Erimus.
I take it that league table is 66/67?
Didn't realise QPR won the League Cup as well. Can't be many 3rd Div teams to have done that.
It's all going to click tomorrow.
5-2 Boro.
Quote from: John Trebor on September 29, 2023, 01:17:38 PMIt's all going to click tomorrow.
5-2 Boro.
That would be amazing, what a message that would send out to the league
A bit of info for the 1st few yearz of the league cup
Check out this post from EFL https://www.efl.com/news/2020/february/the-league-cup-1960-1969
Quote from: erimus74 on September 29, 2023, 01:32:55 PMQuote from: John Trebor on September 29, 2023, 01:17:38 PMIt's all going to click tomorrow.
5-2 Boro.
That would be amazing, what a message that would send out to the league
A bit of info for the 1st few yearz of the league cup
Check out this post from EFL https://www.efl.com/news/2020/february/the-league-cup-1960-1969
Interesting stuff. I see the big boys didn't enter until the following season, when a European place was given to the winners.
Quote from: John Trebor on September 29, 2023, 04:30:42 PMQuote from: erimus74 on September 29, 2023, 01:32:55 PMQuote from: John Trebor on September 29, 2023, 01:17:38 PMIt's all going to click tomorrow.
5-2 Boro.
That would be amazing, what a message that would send out to the league
A bit of info for the 1st few yearz of the league cup
Check out this post from EFL https://www.efl.com/news/2020/february/the-league-cup-1960-1969
Interesting stuff. I see the big boys didn't enter until the following season, when a European place was given to the winners.
Good shout, didnt think of that, but it make sense, soon as europe was introduced it was right, move along children the grown ups are here now
Watford 0 Boro 1
NO EXCUSES TODAY... NEED TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING 💪💪💪
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Need to hit the ground drinking
:monkeyman:
I'm going for a boring,yet reasonable 1-1
Quote from: New Division on September 30, 2023, 08:46:32 AMI'm going for a boring,yet reasonable 1-1
Be happy with that New Division, keep the unbeaten run going
DECENT TEAM 💪💪💪💪💪
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2-1 to Watford
Quote from: LIDDLE_TOWERS999 (MODERATOR) on September 30, 2023, 02:02:47 PMDECENT TEAM 💪💪💪💪💪
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Only change, McNair for Lenihan
Will Mcnair drop in for Lenihan, or will he go right back and VDB move to CB?
Quote from: Johnny Thunder on September 30, 2023, 02:33:08 PMWill Mcnair drop in for Lenihan, or will he go right back and VDB move to CB?
If your aunty had balls would she be your uncle (although thinking about it your aunty would not need tackle to call herself "uncle" in this day and age!)?
VBD as right back is a must in my opinion.
Quote from: Johnny Thunder on September 30, 2023, 02:33:08 PMWill Mcnair drop in for Lenihan, or will he go right back and VDB move to CB?
Hey thats a good shout, VDB & Fry together, what a young pairing that is
Quote from: LIDDLE_TOWERS999 (MODERATOR) on September 30, 2023, 02:27:24 PMQuote from: RiversideRifle on September 30, 2023, 02:05:27 PM2-1 to Watford
WHY YOU BACKED BORO TO WIN THEN 🤔
DAFCUN... 🙄
Backed Watford in my two tonner like. I just think we will lose today. I hope not thoUgg
I just cant feel positive about today. Its purely just a feeling but i hope we dont capitulate early doors or it could be a long afternoon.
Quote from: Nekder (Kenny) on September 30, 2023, 02:40:18 PMI just cant feel positive about today. Its purely just a feeling but i hope we dont capitulate early doors or it could be a long afternoon.
Agreed.
1 - 2. You heard it here first.
Our best defender is out, so instead of shoring up a dodgy defence in a different way he chooses to hang Paddy McNair out to dry again by playing in a back two. And starting with Crooks in the side worries me even more!
2-0 to Watford.
I'm certainly not confident seeing Lenihan missing from the side.
I hope they are fired up from the off.
The Watford commentator just said a couple of changes for Watford & a new system, hopefully it doesnt work for em
C'mon Boro!
:leo3:
Get the fuck in 1-0 mighty Reds Mgree
2-0
:leo3: :leo3:
Quote from: teamboro on September 30, 2023, 03:11:53 PMGet the fuck in 1-0 mighty Reds Mgree
Yer must be watchin a slow stream.
:rudi:
2-0 Mcgree :leo2: :leo1: :leo3:
Turn by Howson described as lucky by the Watford dafcun commentators.
Great piece of improvisation.
McRee again for number two. He's on 🔥 fire
Fucking Fry :unbelievable: 2-1
Fry - you fucking useless plank
Been shite all season
Fry a liability...again.
Obrien off.
:unbelievable:
We constantly put ourselves under pressure, easy ball Boro
Coburn is getting batteted, get a grip ref
Well done Hackney lad
Ref is a cunt.
PLAYED WELL FIRST 30 MINS... MCGREE CLASS... FRY TO BLAME FOR THEIR GOAL THOUGH 🙄🙄🙄
Started off like a train we were excellent & I could see more goals from us, yes Watford came back into the game but I was hoping if they get one back it would be a hard worked goal, not a lump from their spud No4 & what was Fry playing at, putting them right back in it & messed us up, O'Brien going off is a big miss, long 45 minutes now
McGrees two goal were from excellent moves, they couldnt live with us, Jones, playing well the whole half, Crooks running well with the ball, lovely turn from Howson & through ball to McGree, but as I posted earlier, we do put ourselves under pressure
Got to win this. One of their main me is called Louza ffs.
Fuck sake :unbelievable: 2-2
We've been awful since conceding the 1st goal
Lazy. Poor work ethic and shit defensive coach.
We're that bad defensively that our only chance to even get a point out of the game is to attaack, I know its easier said than done
Thats better
O'Briens been a big miss
Get in Coburn
Crooks, Coburn, gooooaaaaaalllllllllll 😍
Crooks assist again.
Nice finish from Cocoa.
I'll stfu 🤬
Linesman & ref are awful
Saved keeper
Be strong Boro please
We a fragile at the back Fry being the liability
Could & should have increased our lead
Crooks is having a great game
We play some nice football, keep it well away from our defence
Excellent VDB
We are great going forward
Crooks off, noway 😳
Shakey as at the back.
Going forwards is our best defence.
:champs:
Vdb should have stopped the second.
Defense coach Wood shithouse gate needs the push. The entire defense needs to be made to train and sleep out on the moors. Fannies the lot of them.
Apart from that thought we did enough for the win. Very good at times going forward. Hackney and Howson put a shift in. Mcree mom again.
GREAT WIN 💪💪💪
Again Greenwood comes on & doesnt touch the ball
Coburn immense
Crooks had a great game, Jones too
Subs made no impact for me
Excellent points considering we gave away a two goal lead & lookdd so shaky at the back, going forward we can cut through anyone
Out of the bottom 3
Sort out our backline & we can move up the league
1st back to back wins in midweek, 1st back to back league wins of tge season
Unbeaten in 4
Are the cracks painted over yet? Gettin
Quote from: LIDDLE_TOWERS999 (MODERATOR) on September 29, 2023, 10:01:08 AMHORNETS 🐝 2 BORO LIONS 🦁 2
COBURN
MCGREE
WASN'T FAR AWAY AND GOT THE SCORERS RIGHT 😉
UTB
:leo3:
Games are full of if only but when Fry got his feet mixed up & they capitilised our excellent game plan went out of the window & confidence started to drain out of us, Crooks for me tipped the game in our favour, winning & carrying the ball, playing out to Jones then that exquisite pass to Coburn for the winner
On cloud 9
BEEN SAYING ALL SEASON COBURN MUST START 💪💪💪
ONLY CENTRE FORWARD WE HAVE 👍💪💪💪👍
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Wonder if OTR still want a Q&A off Gibbo, now out of the bottom 3, unbeaten in 4, winning 3 & in the 4th round of the league cup with a big chance of reaching the 5th round for the 1st time since 2012
Quote from: LIDDLE_TOWERS999 (MODERATOR) on September 30, 2023, 05:21:03 PMBEEN SAYING ALL SEASON COBURN MUST START 💪💪💪
ONLY CENTRE FORWARD WE HAVE 👍💪💪💪👍
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Yes hes been excellent the last two games hes played
When McGree plays well we play well
Bloody great result just Shakey at the back
Great result. Makes the McGree omission at the start of the season even more baffling. Hopefully there's not too much pressure on young coburns shoulders and reinforcements arrive in January.
Do you think Dieng is our beat keeper since Randolph
Quote from: Blott on September 30, 2023, 05:06:17 PMAre the cracks painted over yet? Gettin
Is Bauser still the problem too!
Quote from: LIDDLE_TOWERS999 (MODERATOR) on September 30, 2023, 05:21:03 PMBEEN SAYING ALL SEASON COBURN MUST START 💪💪💪
ONLY CENTRE FORWARD WE HAVE 👍💪💪💪👍
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You've been saying it for about ten years, yer cunt
:rudi:
Quote from: erimus74 on September 30, 2023, 05:48:40 PMDo you think Dieng is our beat keeper since Randolph
Looks that way, doesn't it?
STILL BUZZING 😍
We've bought young with some potential in Rogers,Silvera and VdB. Will take them time. As we see the first two are some way off Champo level and VdB needs to toughen up and grow a pair.
O'Brien loan is the key signing. The only upgrade.
3 wins and onwards and upwards.
Sadly it doesn't look good for O'Brien
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:rav:
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Looking good, the Watford commentator said if Coburn carries
on playing like that they'll be some clubs interested in buying him in January, later said, wish we had him upfront for us, a good auld, tough CF
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Nice comment fromskysports on our opening goal
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Middlesbrough's Michael Carrick:
"It was a very good win. A bit of all sorts in there. We started well and then let them back into it out of nowhere.
"But we managed to find a way. Being 2-2 after going 2-0 up and still winning shows a lot of character and a lot of heart. I thought we dug in well after half-time. It's not easy when you start the game so well and then lose the flow.
"It's been a big week in terms of results. Winning games does give you extra zip, extra energy and a little bit of confidence.
"I did feel it was coming. We've probably played better in games and lost this season. It just shows that you've got top go through that spell and earn it really, to come out on top."
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Who believes in fate, its 50 years since that 73-74 won the 2nd division championship 🙏👍☀️
Quote from: erimus74 on October 01, 2023, 05:13:52 PMWho believes in fate, its 50 years since that 73-74 won the 2nd division championship 🙏👍☀️
More chance of the 20yr repeat of the League Cup win I reckon.
Quote from: John Trebor on October 01, 2023, 08:26:14 PMQuote from: erimus74 on October 01, 2023, 05:13:52 PMWho believes in fate, its 50 years since that 73-74 won the 2nd division championship 🙏👍☀️
More chance of the 20yr repeat of the League Cup win I reckon.
😁
Must say, though I dont usually harp on about refs performances I was disappointed with ours on saturday, 2, 3 times he pulled up Hackney for his harrassing Watford players, once or twice tugging at a players shirt yet after watching it again, the tackle which could rule out O'Brien for the season, from behind & the ball in an area of no danger to Watford & the ref gave nothing
And the assaults on Coburn from both centre backs.