Real football is back :carrick4:
This weekends match v Blackburn will be our 3rd away league game of the season, we're still looking to win our 1st points on the road, our previous 2 games ave seen us score just the 2 goals, Latte & a Forss penalty, our 137th away penalty & 406th in total, while Deing has had to pick the ball out of the net, seven times, not a good start, but not the worst as has been mentioned in parts of the media
Have we been unlucky, no for me, we've got what we deserved, sloppy, awful defending leading to some terrible goals to concede, resulting in the Boro finding themselves at the foot of the league & almost 12 months after finding ourselves in a similar position
Blackburn sit 13th in the Championship with 7 points, scoring 6 & conceding 8, so not a tall task for the Boro, but every game, no matter where the opposition sit in the table will be difficult if we don't stop conceding silly goals & fail to capitalise on good scoring opportunities. Latte is getting in to the right positions to score, but needs to have a bit more composure when facing one on one with the keeper, hopefully he can show a bit more confidence in himself & put away the chances when they come his way, which I think he will
Hopefully Michael Carrick has used the boring international break to our advantage & we see a different team from the one that's holding up the rest of the championship, apparently, there were some stats in the media saying only Leicester City have more shots on goals on goal than the Boro, amazing considering the difference in league positions, get it right & we could pull ourselves away from the wrong end of the table, but stats don't win games, or get you points
I can see both O'Brien & Greenwood starting on Saturday, whether O'Brien is to replace Howson, which could see Lenihan, if fit, return to Ewood Park wearing the captains armband, or play alongside both him & Hackney, time will tell, Greenwood in for Rogers for me, fingers crossed Forss is back after an illness v QPR
One game away to Blackburn that is still looked at today with split reactions, happened 26 years ago, the controversial not turning up at Ewood Park for a PL fixture, some say the club never really got over that ill fated decision to not travel due to sickness & injuries within the club at the time, the calibre players we were allegedly going to sign the following summer blew us fans away, but not going cost us 3 points & relegation
Robbie Mustoe doesn't hold back with his thoughts
"I still feel very strongly about that," said Robbie Mustoe when I spoke to him for my book, The Little Fella: How Middlesbrough fell in love with Juninho. "The relegation I had with Lennie Lawrence in 1993, I get that, we weren't really ready & I had a lot of injuries."That's one relegation on my record, but I won't have the 1997 relegation on my record because that was nothing to do with me."If we'd have played the Blackburn game & lost 10-0, we'd have still stayed up by one point."There's a lot of anger at the decision not to play that game."We could have put a team out, but ultimately that cost us our place in the Premier League."
1st September 1902 - Our 1st away fixture v Blackburn, Boro winning 1-0 with an Alex Robertson goal
This will be our 73rd away fixture v Blackburn with the following record
Won - 14
Drew - 20
Lost - 38
Goals scored - 80
Goals against - 137
3 away hat tricks v Blackburn
29/11/1947 - 1st divison - Blackburn 1 Boro 7 - James Cecil McCormack became the 27th different hat trick goalscorer when he notched his 2nd Boro hat trick & the clubs 12th away hat trick
21/11/1989 - 2nd divison - Blackburn 2 Boro 4 - Alan Kernaghan became the 46th different hat trick goalscorer when he notched his only Boro hat trick & the clubs 30th away hat trick
16/10/2004 - PL - Blackburn 0 Boro 4 - Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink became the 54th different hat trick goalscorer when he notched his only Boro hat trick & the clubs 37th away hat trick
Away debuts v Blackburn
1/09/1902 - Robert McFarlane GK away won 1-0 becoming our 6th 1st team keeper
1/09/1902 - W MacAuley away won 1-0
1/09/1902 - John Muir away won 1-0
24/11/1915 - Hugh Caig away lost 4-0 he becams the 19th player to make one appearance & never to be seen again in Boro's 1st team
3/9/1919 - Reuben Butler away drew 2-2 scored on his debut
21/3/1936 - Norman Highman away drew 2-2
30/11/1957 - Ray Henderson away drew 3-3
30/11/1991 - Andy Peake away lost 2-1
3/4/1999 - Keith O'Neil away drew 0-0
Away converted penalties v Blacburn Rovers (according to my stats)
5/3/1910 - RT Young - Our 13th
10/2/1913 - John Carr - Our 16th
11/10/1967 - John Hickton - Our 1st league cup penalty & 66th
30/11/1991 - Bernie Slaven - Our 91st
30/12/2006 - Yakubu - Our 108th
A few players who played for both teams
Stuart Ripley
Stewart Downing
Darren Lenihan
Marvin Emnes
Jordon Rhodes
Daniel Ayala
Shay Given
Danny Graham
Harry Chapman
Ruddy Gestede
Mogga managed both tems
John Coddington played for Blackbun, he actually scored an OG for us when playing for Blackburn in 1968 at Ayresome Park, he coached with Bradford City before joining the Boro set-up, where he worked with the likes of John Neal, Bobby Murdoch & Malcolm Allison, he also had a spell as assistant to Jack Charlton
Boro fact - 2 totally different away results v Blackburn
Our joint biggest away win & our record defeat against Blackburn Rovers
29th November 1947 - when the mighty Boro won 7-1 at Blackburn
16th November 1954 - We were stuffed 9-0 our heaviest record defeat
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If they put as much effort in as you do with these Erimus they could scrape a 2 - 1 win .. Rovers 1 - 2 Boro
Rovers 3 Boro fuck-all
Great read Erimus again that no show is still like a wond that won't heal especially when we were critical of one person that been Keith Lamb who took the blame instead of Gibson who actually made the call to call off the match and Keith took the flack
Anyway back to Saturday
1-1 Boro still waiting for our first 3 points of the season
If Carrick sticks with this failing one-dimensional nonsense its safe to say Blackburn will definately score.
If he doesn't start with O'Brien in his midfield then its equally safe to say Blackburn will definately win.
Quote from: MrCrocket on September 14, 2023, 06:21:54 PMIf they put as much effort in as you do with these Erimus they could scrape a 2 - 1 win .. Rovers 1 - 2 Boro
Cheers McCrocket 👍
Quote from: teamboro on September 14, 2023, 08:22:57 PMGreat read Erimus again that no show is still like a wond that won't heal especially when we were critical of one person that been Keith Lamb who took the blame instead of Gibson who actually made the call to call off the match and Keith took the flack
Anyway back to Saturday
1-1 Boro still waiting for our first 3 points of the season
Cheers teamboro
Quote from: Bud Wiser on September 14, 2023, 08:32:43 PMIf Carrick sticks with this failing one-dimensional nonsense its safe to say Blackburn will definately score.
If he doesn't start with O'Brien in his midfield then its equally safe to say Blackburn will definately win.
I totally agree Bud Wiser
I will go as far to say the team he inherited were playing below their ability to get Wilder sacked & once MC came in with his nice style of passing football the whole group bought into it, now he has to tinker with his formation, style, because at present we're to soft in defence, to weak in midfield & unable to capitalise upfront, if things dont change Gibbo will listen to disgruntled fans
I really hope he turns it around, for the sake of the club we want, no need, a manager who can stay here for a good while, stop this manager merry goround
ROVERS 3 BORO 1
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Cracking in-depth write-up on the lad's history with Blackburn Erimus - well-done fella.
I'm starting to twitch and not helped by this next run of fixtures.
That said I'm sticking with him and hoping for a turnaround.
We need wins but I will settle for a draw on Saturday if it proves to be the start of a building block of positive results.
0-1 To Boro. :leo1:
4-1 Boro.
:leo3:
Quote from: Mike Peeler on September 15, 2023, 08:39:12 AMCracking in-depth write-up on the lad's history with Blackburn Erimus - well-done fella.
I'm starting to twitch and not helped by this next run of fixtures.
That said I'm sticking with him and hoping for a turnaround.
We need wins but I will settle for a draw on Saturday if it proves to be the start of a building block of positive results.
0-1 To Boro. :leo1:
Cheers Mike 👍
Great write up Erimus. I was at Ewood Park when Kerny scored the hat trick 4-2 win of I'm not mistaken.
We generally don't do well against Rovers and I remember Simon Eastwood ( Pictured on one of your program covers) playing a blinder in goal against us in a defeat at the Riverside.
Unfortunately I think 2-1 defeat. Hope I'm wrong
https://youtu.be/uuraLsFkwBg?si=vuMzumP3OL562X7x
I hope the new left back and O'brien both start.
I feel quietly confident we can get our first win.
2-3
I'll never forget that penna we should have had when TLF was brought down in the 3 points season
Quote from: Ural Quntz (Moderator) on September 15, 2023, 06:09:26 PMI'll never forget that penna we should have had when TLF was brought down in the 3 points season
Yep, 100% penalty
Southampton lost 4-1 at home to Leicester tonight, conceding after 22 seconds, 9 goals in 2 games
Could be a new manager when they play their next game, mmm wonder who thats against 🤔
A nervy 1-2 tomorrow 👍👍👍👍
Quote from: erimus74 on September 15, 2023, 10:11:51 PMSouthampton lost 4-1 at home to Leicester tonight, conceding after 22 seconds, 9 goals in 2 games
Could be a new manager when the y play their next games, mmm wonder who thats against 🤔
Russell Martin was getting pelters at Swansea early last season. Likes his teams to pass pass pass and no end product. He wont be at Southampton long.
That's the thing when you come down get off to a bad start and you are often gone in October before or during the next break.
A good solid club Southampton, and like us and many others maybe just maybe they've had their day out in the sun. So could be joining the queue of clubs wanting back in the big-time. They need to be careful. That said they get a few goos with the parachute money of three years.
I had them down to go up as well.
Putton on Sky has us down for a two-nil defeat today.
They will be piss all over this board and fly me if he is correct in his prediction. :rav:
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/34681/11938403/sky-bet-championship-predictions-burnley-and-sheffield-united-to-continue-promotion-march
Will settle for a 0-0, we need to keep a few clean sheets
I fear in reality a 2-1 defeat
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WILL PUT THE TEAM UP AT 2 O CLOCK 👍💪💪💪👍
C'mon Boro!
Blackburn players blasts from the past
RIP - Noel Brotherston- Always seemed to play well against us
STRANGE SELECTION LIKE 🤔🤔🤔
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No Mcgree ffs , that looks very static team
I'm with Liddle on this one - Very strange selection - is he expecting it to be a bit physical/direct from Blackburn and then hoping to get one over on them later in the game by bringing the subs on. No Mcgree as well
Bets on
Latte Lath first goal 1.0 Boro
Fry anytime Goal.
Crooks anytime goal
Last Goal MCgree
CMON BORO!!!
Bangara the 1004th debutant & according to my stats, our 5th player to wear No24 on his Boro debut
Nathaniel Chelobah
Emilo Nsue
Aiden Flint
Sam Folarin
Understandably, he's taking some of the flair out of the team. Although why he's persisting in playing centre-backs at right back is beyond me, when our squad limitations are crying out for a back three.
Glad to see Forss in the starting line up
Big chance playing Van der Berg away from home, Crooks brought back, personally I would have broufght in Greenwood, but what di I know, think he's thinking that he knows what Crooks brings & can sort of trust him
Silvers on the bench, as is McGree, whats going on there & no place on the bench for Engle, has he picked up a knock?
Quote from: Bud Wiser on September 16, 2023, 02:13:41 PMUnderstandably, he's taking some of the flair out of the team. Although why he's persisting in playing centre-backs at right back is beyond me, when our squad limitations are crying out for a back three.
I dont think he'll ever revert to a back three, could be wrong, but I would be suprised
Looking at that team again Carrick is a brave man, fingers crossed it works out ok & we're hailing him
C'mon Boro!
I would always play Mcgree
It's his neck on line the Erimus so I get it- it's the not-picking Riley MCGree that puzzles me - if he wanted away then I can sort of buy into it - it would not be a good look to other players wanting to be here. Other than that why he is not in is puzzling given our lack of wins.
SOMETHING DEFFO NOT RIGHT AT THE CLUB... GRUDGES DON'T WORK 😔😔😔
Quote from: Mike Peeler on September 16, 2023, 02:29:36 PMIt's his neck on the Erimus so i get it- it's the not-picking Riley MCGree that puzzles me - if he wanted away then I can sort of buy into it - it would not be a good look to other players wanting to be here. Other than that why he is not in is puzzling given our lack of wins.
Agree, I thought McGree ran up blind alleys v Millwall, which I think was the only game I've seen he started, but others have performed awful & kept in the side, Rogers been a big example, chaotic Silvera too
I do find it strange too, when we're struggling so much he has to leave out one of our experienced player
My son in law has just told me Rado Tees have said its our worst start to a season ever, dont know I didnt listen, but they're wrong
The 1st 6 games of season 1984/85
Pompey away lost 1-0
Grimsby Town how lost 5-1
Notts County away lost 3-2
Wolves home drew 1-1
Wimbledon home lost 4-2
Fulham away lost 2-1
Add to that we lost to Bradford over two legs in the league cup 1st round
0-2 away
2-2 home
Who do Bradford play in the league cup again
Might be a tricky one this
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UTFB
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The dog is back :leo3:
They cut us open there, missing a sitter, ahhhhhh
We look so fragile
Defence looks shaky
Well done Latte
FFS here we go again :unbelievable: same defensive shit
It's not looking good - if we don't get out from today's game and newly promoted Sheff Wed turn us over midweek the gun might come out or Gibson might open the draw and put the bullet in it. Ready for the Saints game at home next week should they beat us.
Im not a flapper but I think the alarm bells are starting to ring.
The worrying thing we're minus 9 goals conceded & I cant recall Deing been at fault for any of those goals, hes just got no protection at all
The scary bit is that 2 goals kills us given our currnet goal scoring record
UTTER SHITE AS USUAL 😡😡😡😡😡😡 WATCHING IT IN THAILAND 🇹🇭 BUT I DARE SAY I WON'T BE WATCHING THE SECOND HALF 😡😡😡 WHERE IS MCGREE LIKE 😡😡😡😡😡😡
WE ARE A JOKE CLUB NOW 😡😡😡
How the hell are we only one down three glorious chances for them
Should be 4 down . van den berg is no RB, we look clueless at back again , with nowt up front
ffs , show us fkin SOMETHING
That was a shite first half our defence panicks everytime the attacked
We do have some decent attacking players on the bench which if he uses them properly - all is not lost - conceded again and that's us fucked like and will mean a point at best - no way will we bag three.
2 max and even that is a big ask. from us.
I would take a draw now. :rav:
CMON BORO :leo2:
We have a relegation team in waiting, cant see us not conceding in the 2nd half
Again, weak in defence, over ran in midfield & awful, Latte apart upfront
If Carrick again sees hes pleased with how we're playing tben Gibbo should remove him, we're dire
This is poor Jesus what is happening
Can see us knicking a goal to draw this even though getting battered.
FFS as I'm typing gotta get 2 now.
:unbelievable:
Cant see Carrick lasting past October, we havent played a top team yet
:leo1: :leo2:
The tree gives us hope - can we snatch a draw - lets just say i smell more goals in this one but who will get them . fuck me they nearly got one then.
CMON BORO
FFS keep it down
How are you watching it?
FFS hackney is playing shit in midfield do the forwards no were the net is :unbelievable:
FHS Latte 😩
That Latte looks fucking garbage to me
Couldn't hit his boxer shorts with a fart the useless cunt
Much better 2nd half but sloppy up front.
Sloppy at the back, midfield and upfront I can't see a win on this showing another Saturday night drawing my sorrows
Quote from: Blott on September 16, 2023, 05:05:00 PMQuote from: Steboro on September 16, 2023, 05:03:53 PMQuote from: Blott on September 16, 2023, 04:27:40 PMHow are you watching it?
On the IP Television.
I have no idea what that means. Is it supplied by MFC?
Mate
Get yerself a firestick
There's load of IPTV subs out there
They cost about 50 bar for a year
The daft chimp choker on here will sort you out if needed
Good game to watch if you are a neutral - shite if you are a Boro fan that likes winning.
Clocks ticking for Carrick. 1 point from 6 games and we've hardly played at team of note yet.
Oh well, concentrate on the cup
Is there still mugs out there that say " Keep The Faith " :charles: :charles: :charles:
Kim Jong Steve deserves everything and more the town of Boro deserves more. Ronald MacDonald would run the club better than that motherfucker . :redcard:
And I still dont think we've played a top 6 team yet
Tuesday night will be make or break for Carrick. Even then I can't for the life of me see how can get out of this mess with this collection of National League no hopers.
The one hope is if it is the manager/Carrick at fault for this shocking start. If he gets binned and then the next man gets it right. If it's the players at fault and not Carrick then we are fucked and Scott has sold us down the river. :rav:
Quote from: Mike Peeler on September 16, 2023, 05:18:45 PMThe one hope is if it is the manager/Carrick at fault for this shocking start. If he gets binned and then the next man gets it right. If it's the players at fault and not Carrick then we are fucked and Scott has sold us down the river. :rav:
Not so sure its Scott who's selling us down the river, more his boss. Scott was appointed to
move the club forward stabilise the club on the cheap.
Hamster cheeks, curly tots, Rockcliff etc etc
Quote from: Mike Peeler on September 16, 2023, 05:18:45 PMThe one hope is if it is the manager/Carrick at fault for this shocking start. If he gets binned and then the next man gets it right. If it's the players at fault and not Carrick then we are fucked and Scott has sold us down the river. :rav:
He was the one who helped remove Warnock too
I know Jones is hot & cold but for me, he has to come on ahead of Rogers, who really shouldnt even be on the bench
We're getting to the point of equalling our worst start to the season in my time, 1984/85 season when, guess what, we are to face Bradford in the league cup, the very team that knocked us out of the league cup in 84
For me, we need to progress to keep the little bit of confidence we have
Death by a thousand cuts curtesy of ego maniac Gibson. He's the one constant in every unfolding disaster the club has. Couldn't organise a decent piss up at the Guiness storehouse Dublin. Time he sold up or just handed over the reigns to someone who has a faint idea of what they're doing when it comes to organising a half decent football club.
Quote from: Keanu_Reeves on September 16, 2023, 06:01:31 PMDeath by a thousand cuts curtesy of ego maniac Gibson. He's the one constant in every unfolding disaster the club has. Couldn't organise a decent piss up at the Guiness storehouse Dublin. Time he sold up or just handed over the reigns to someone who has a faint idea of what they're doing when it comes to organising a half decent football club.
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Quote from: Keanu_Reeves on September 16, 2023, 06:01:31 PMDeath by a thousand cuts curtesy of ego maniac Gibson. He's the one constant in every unfolding disaster the club has. Couldn't organise a decent piss up at the Guiness storehouse Dublin. Time he sold up or just handed over the reigns to someone who has a faint idea of what they're doing when it comes to organising a half decent football club.
By that logic he's also been there during our most successful times as well
:pd:
Something has to change, we cant be that unlucky that with each manager within a short time failure cteeps in
Preston top of the league, whose their manager
WE ARE A POOR TEAM AND WE ARE GOING DOWN ON THIS FORM... WHAT MAKES ME MADDDER 😡😡😡
NO CUNT SEEMS TO BE GIVING A FUCK 😡😡😡👎👎👎👎👎
Gibson out 👍🏻
Mogga & Warnock doing the business still
Even Carrick's aftermatch comments were as unbelieveable as they were predictable.
"Plenty of positives"
"I thought we played some really good football at times".
"Theres loads in there to take encouragement from".
"really encouraging signs".
And the biggest corker of them all: "I can't fault the players".
Eh???
The geezers in complete fucking denial! Totally fucking deluded!!!
Quote from: Bud Wiser on September 16, 2023, 05:27:15 PMQuote from: Mike Peeler on September 16, 2023, 05:18:45 PMThe one hope is if it is the manager/Carrick at fault for this shocking start. If he gets binned and then the next man gets it right. If it's the players at fault and not Carrick then we are fucked and Scott has sold us down the river. :rav:
Not so sure its Scott who's selling us down the river, more his boss. Scott was appointed to move the club forward stabilise the club on the cheap.
I think we've taken a different direction due to our lack of funds.
If Gibson has been upfront with them in private and both Carrick and Scott knew finances are going to be tight - then the ball is in their court.
If he has noballed them after telling them they have a 'big' budget to work with then fair enough Gibson is under scrutiny to some degree.
I doubt any budget good or bad should see us in the bottom three. on paper - so it's recruitment, manager, and players to blame.
It might be Gibson's fault we do not have a promotion-winning side, but then again last year we did the fuckers just never turned up on the day in the playoffs.
For me, The Gibbo debate is detached from the football side of things.
If he told his staff porkies about finances then fans are justified in calling him out.
We will never know the truth though, so it's all just guesswork.
The football side of things is totally down to the management team, coaches and players.
I was realistic in what to expect after missing out last season.
We were never signing players of that quality this season. We gambled our cash and missed out.
This squad is nowhere near a bottom three squad. It is a decent mid table squad that is not performing.
All on the shoulders of Carrick, the coaches and the players.
Fuckin sort it out ye cunts.
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